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This is a replacement for her current server. I believe current server is:

intel p4 3.2ghz
2gb ram
some cd/dvd drive
some average sized hd
windows server

....

id think at minimum.. decent server would be somewhere in the neighborhood of like...

min dual core, if not a quad.
4-8GB ram
RAID 1 WD blacks or greens
windows server 20...10?

but i dont know much about servers.. or does servers not need to be so fast?? whats a decent server build for lets say budget $500 - 700
Edited by iandroo888 - 3/6/11 at 4:51pm
 
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post #2 of 13
What do you plan to do with the server?

2GB is usually more than enough.
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Yeah, it all depends what it is going to be used for. The newest Server is 2008 R2. but depending on what the server is used for may not need windows Server. Fill in some details on the use and we can help you out more.
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You generally build a system around a requirement...
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Users are real estate agents with multiple computers and printers in the house, wired and wireless.

- Server is used as a central location for files (probably main reason)
- Used to have VPN when they had static IP address so they can connect to server anywhere (isnt there something that can refresh or reupdate the ip to a specific domain name so if u put like realestate.com, it knows which ip to go to.. even if it changes..? cuz like i have a domain wiht no-ip. it has a little program that runs in the background that updates the domain to what IP it is or something like that...)
- Share the laser printers for all the computers in the household (thats not hard.. lol)

on the side note, i think they have their own email domain... and a web site in the making... not sure if its going to be hosted on the server or not

*edit* they have hosting account with godaddy.....??? does that mean they dont need to host email or website by themselves?

so from what i can tell, processor speed not really an issue..

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AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE 3.2GHz AM3 80W Dual Core
Asus M4A77TD AM3 770 ATX
G.Skill 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600
Gigabyte HD4550 512MB DDR3 PCI-E
WD Caviar Green 1TB 5400RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" (2 in RAID1)
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel
Asus 24X SATA DVD Burner
Corsair H50

Black fan screws
Scythe Kaze-Maru 140mm 800rpm (on top of case)
Scythe S-Flex SFF21E (4 - push/pull config on h50. 2 on front of case)
140mm & 120mm black wire fan grills

Total - $697.33 from newegg and jab-tech

iunoe... picking like the lowest power consumption and quiet items.. picked fans around 20db. no LEDs. what u guys think....? is this overkill? lol
Edited by iandroo888 - 3/6/11 at 10:30pm
 
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post #6 of 13
How where they establishing a VPN before (point to point, etc)? What is their current VPN hardware? If you are building a server for that small of a group then you could just use a mid-level desktop and still have plenty of life in it 3+ years down the road given nothing changes for them. (Read that as growth, etc) The print sharing doesn't really create that big of a load with just a couple of people and printers printing so the horsepower for that doesn't need to be that great. You also have a LOT of fans in there for no more the hardware you have in the case.

That brings up a great question, what are their growth plans for the next 30-5 years? Also, I wouldn't use WD Green drives as they behave poorly in RAID. For the same price get some Samsung F3 1TB drives in RAID 1.

This really seems more like home users that have a home business that is ran by the husband and wife. You also should really find out some more about their email situation, how they are currently using the system and more so what are they looking for. This will you give a much better idea on how to proceed rather than playing a guessing game. (No disrespect meant either.)
    
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i may go there sometime this weekend for some other work. ill check out the server myself and see =3

should i just get WD Caviar Blacks then =3 i had an idea of low power consump. so the greens came to mind. didnt know they had poor RAID 1 performance.

come to think of it.. prob end up taking out 2 of the s-flex... 1 in front. 1 on h50. and the 140 on top. more than enough already.. very rare building something that doesnt get massively loaded hahahah
 
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Originally Posted by iandroo888 View Post
- Used to have VPN when they had static IP address so they can connect to server anywhere (isnt there something that can refresh or reupdate the ip to a specific domain name so if u put like realestate.com, it knows which ip to go to.. even if it changes..? cuz like i have a domain wiht no-ip. it has a little program that runs in the background that updates the domain to what IP it is or something like that...)
Use DynDNS. You can create a free account which maps your dynamic IP address to a FQDN (IE: yourdomain.dyndns.org). DynDNS has a small updater utility that you install on the workstation or server that automatically syncs your IP address to your DynDNS account if your IP changes. This allows you to contact your home network by using the FQDN that you set up with your account.

Example:

Assuming you have all ports opened and the OS configured properly, you would be able to RDP into your home systems by pointing the RDP client to 'yourdomain.dyndns.org'. No need to remember your dynamic IP!
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you should'nt get an h50 the heatsink that commes with the processor is more then enough they dont need a gcard onboard graphics is more then enough for a server take the fans out the stock one will produce more then enough airflow

so get them a Phenom II x4 955 instead of the x2 since you should have the budget for it by taking the H50 and gcard out and extra fans i've built a rackmount server and it didn't need anithing close to the h50 and it was a dual opteron x6 i think i don't remember coulda been an x8 anniways cooling wont be a problem withh the antec 300
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you should'nt get an h50 the heatsink that commes with the processor is more then enough they dont need a gcard onboard graphics is more then enough for a server take the fans out the stock one will produce more then enough airflow

so get them a Phenom II x4 955 instead of the x2 since you should have the budget for it by taking the H50 and gcard out and extra fans i've built a rackmount server and it didn't need anithing close to the h50 and it was a dual opteron x6 i think i don't remember coulda been an x8 anniways cooling wont be a problem withh the antec 300
server is sometimes not used only as a server but sometimes as a personal computer as well (eh... not enuf computers in house i guess_

replacing stock fans because user does NOT want ANY LED's as reason was stated before =3 graphic card will stay. user wants almost silent computer. iirc, stock heatsinks are quite noisy after a while
 
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