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The only thing I am still confident enough to buy from MSI is graphics cards..
580 Lightning is a beast.
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Technically it's a (4+1) + (4+1) design. That basically means it utilizes two controllers to drive two different circuits. (Which all boards do this, as they're all based on a (4+1) + X design)



870FPE & 890FXA-GD65 both burn when overclocking a Phenom II x6 too hard because of MSI's shoddy component choice or because of their inability to design a circuit.

EDIT: I have a 870 Fusion Power Edition. With DICE. Purchased with my own money.
Before I could get past 4.4Ghz / 1.4v CPU / 1.3v CPU-NB it caught fire.
Lol, Overclocking "too hard" kills boards? Well, I never.
    
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Lol, Overclocking "too hard" kills boards? Well, I never.
any board should be able to do 1.4v.....there are chips with stock voltages higher than that >.>
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In general terms, Mil Spec electronic parts have a wider rated temperatue range, and some will be radiation hardened devices, or will pass special leak tests to ensure proper hermetic sealing. Its not that they are "better", they will be functionally the same, but will meet some kind of specification that the military may need. Like regular people doing regular things are not likely to need devices that are radiation hardended and leak free because they are not putting their stuff on a satellite and flying it into space - nor are they putting their device in the belly of an aircraft that flies through the stratosphere - nor putting it into a hot, stuffy tank in the middle of the desert.
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580 Lightning is a beast.
It's not out yet.
But yeah, I really like MSI Lightning card series. They do well under LN2.
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From my experience, mil-spec simply means "lowest bidder". This is nothing against MSI in particular (other than their choice of advertising), but more of a general observation.
Mil-spec standards are the bare minimum requirements for a component to survive in a given enviroment. They shouldn't be used as a basis for design but are often done so to save money. That's why programs are required to define Key Performance Parameters (KPPs) for the system or component to achieve. Often you will not achieve the minimum threshold performance defined by the KPPs by just following the Mil-spec standards. Extensive test and evaluation confirms this.

"Lowest bidder" refers to the contractor that builds the system or device fulfilling most or all the customer requirements for the least amount of money compared to the the competition. A contractor can easily be the lowest bidder by cutting quality of the work and components. The contractor will still have to meet mil-spec standards and often barely do. The government is required by law to choose the lowest bidder depending on the requirements they can meet. This is often a reason why programs go over budget or over schedule as components fail during testing which sometimes leads to redesigns of the system.

For MSI this is just back-up for their marketing and doesn't actually verify their hardware as being of high quality.
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So why are we bashing MSI when people go out and buy a cheapo board with 4+1/8+1 power phases, overclock their cpu to 4.8ghz and then blow up their board? If you want to overclock like that, get a better board. Don't assume you can do it on a budget board.
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Then why did my 790FX GD70 blow up?
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well it's expected it , i was saying MSI bs alot since day 1
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Hi All;

I am really confused with these board burning threads.

Own 5 890FX-GD70 Board - OC from 3.8 to 4.2 for about 1 year no problems 1.325V to 1.425V on air
Own 4 870A-G54 - OC from 3.6 to 4.2 for a little over 1 year no problems 1.4 to 1.44V on air

All of the GD70 boards are runnign 1090T
All of the 870 boards are running 955 or higher 4 cores

All the GD70 have good power supplies
All the G54 have good power supplies

Either I am extremely lucky, unlikely statisticially) or the problem is elsewhere
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