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post #61 of 75
When I 1st got my 1090t from Micro Center decided to get a 870 MSI forgot what the name was, but it had a sinks on the vrms.
I smoked it when I was running a p95 at stock. sozo.gif was testing temps in the summer...
Well good news is I had my $20 rebate in the mail 2 weeks before and I returned the board for a full refund. So I kind of got $20 for killing the board.lachen.gif
It had military class components.
Edited by Wabbits - 3/8/11 at 6:27am
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I'm replacing my 790FX-GD70 with a Crosshair IV. I'm scared the GD70 is going to burst into flames one day soon. Maybe my fear is totally irrational, but I just started getting paranoid after reading all the horror stories with 4+1 AMD boards.
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post #63 of 75
I think MSI uses Military Component's that are used back in the world war day's...
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I'm going to say this again just for kicks...

Coming out of the military, there is no difference between the military class components and normal components. If it can be made cheaply, efficiently, and perform decently well while maintaining low operation costs, the U.S. uses it to great effect.

Again, this applies to EVERYTHING that we use in our every day lives. There's no difference between the products. XD
     
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post #65 of 75
Quote:
Originally Posted by dham;12643657 
"But daddy my $100 board off newegg can't run my 1090 at 4.0ghz"
"Hello son. Your an idiot. Goodbye."

I can think of at least 3 motherboards in the ~$100 or less price range that would not have any problem running a 1090 at 4GHZ.
     
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post #66 of 75
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seeing Red;12643094 
Mil-spec standards are the bare minimum requirements for a component to survive in a given enviroment. They shouldn't be used as a basis for design but are often done so to save money. That's why programs are required to define Key Performance Parameters (KPPs) for the system or component to achieve. Often you will not achieve the minimum threshold performance defined by the KPPs by just following the Mil-spec standards. Extensive test and evaluation confirms this.

"Lowest bidder" refers to the contractor that builds the system or device fulfilling most or all the customer requirements for the least amount of money compared to the the competition. A contractor can easily be the lowest bidder by cutting quality of the work and components. The contractor will still have to meet mil-spec standards and often barely do. The government is required by law to choose the lowest bidder depending on the requirements they can meet. This is often a reason why programs go over budget or over schedule as components fail during testing which sometimes leads to redesigns of the system.

For MSI this is just back-up for their marketing and doesn't actually verify their hardware as being of high quality.

Mil-spec in general terms isn't even this. It's to produce a baseline standard that can be reproduced at will by any number of manufacturers and will remain consistent with a newly produced item and an item made any number of years ago. Every step from the creation and testing of the raw materials to how the item is manufactured and tested can be spec'd to ensure that one item will always perform to a specific standard no matter who made it or when it was made.

It's not a high quality base line, it's a standard quality base line. In many cases it just pushes the lowest common denominator up a little rather than ensuring quality. It has more often than not held technology and innovations back, not move them forward.

Mil-spec used by any commerical company is only doing so as a sales pitch.
Edited by xenophobe - 3/9/11 at 12:51am
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post #67 of 75
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdocod;12637856 
Often times a mil-spec components is actually lower quality than the non-specced component, but is significantly more expensive because of the validation process.
As a buyer/seller/trader of military surplus I can confirm this for sure. Military electronics are my favorite thing ever and unfortunately not all of it is as good as you would imagine. Some of the US radios and optics are less than I expected for sure. :/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot;12637764 
Doesn't matter if you use good components, if you can't design the PCB right. Or choose the right components for the job.

Amen brother.


Their VRM phase designs are amongst the worse. no matter if you use a 400% overrated MOSFET if the track that drives the current isn't thick enough. it'll blow any day.
   
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post #69 of 75
When I bought my board, there were two choices in my budget price range.

I read the MSI horror stories for AMD so I got the Asrock and I've been happy with it apart from the fact I prefer Gigabytes BIOS layout.
    
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post #70 of 75
While this is mostly a gimmick, and the fact is that they just don't use the crappiest products.

It doesn't stop their products from going through lousy production. One of my GTX 470's had to be returned twice because the 2 new ones they sent me had the same issue, until i just asked for a good old reference which worked just fine.
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