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The Team memory is a very decent overclocker. Reportedly does 1600 CL8, undervolted to 1.5V. LOL_Wut_Axel's build with a few swaps (i.e. memory, maybe the PSU choice, hard drive to the Seagate (from personal experience is slightly better).
RAM has great reviews and there's 0% real-world difference from 1333MHz and 1600MHz RAM. The PSU has gotten great reviews, too. Xigmatek's NRP series is one of the most reliable when it comes to budget PSUs. Corsair's Builder series has gotten very bad rep for having much lower quality than what we're used to from Corsair; they skimped too much. As for HDD, Western Digital>Seagate. Check reliability studies and you'll see why.

Reviews of the PSU:

Overclocker's Club

Tom's Hardware

EDIT:

Found Hard Drive reliability studies for 2010 (study in Russia). The study found failure rates of Seagate to be 56.1%, 19.5% for Western Digital, and 9% for Toshiba.
Edited by LOL_Wut_Axel - 3/6/11 at 9:29pm
    
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post #12 of 31
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alright with you guys help. this is what Im looking at.....


DVD Burner $19
Case $30
HDD $40
PSU $40
4GB RAM $50
CPU $72
MOBO $90

That puts it at $341 with a $20 MIR on the PSU, so $321.

Hows that mobo? anyone familiar with it?

Thanks guys, +rep will be added to all those that helped....
Edited by waparson - 3/6/11 at 9:34pm
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post #13 of 31
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RAM has great reviews and there's 0% real-world difference from 1333MHz and 1600MHz RAM. The PSU has gotten great reviews, too. Xigmatek's NRP series is one of the most reliable when it comes to budget PSUs. Corsair's Builder series has gotten very bad rep for having much lower quality than what we're used to from Corsair; they skimped too much. As for HDD, Western Digital>Seagate. Check reliability studies and you'll see why.

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Overclocker's Club

Tom's Hardware

EDIT:

Found Hard Drive reliability studies for 2010 (study in Russia). The study found failure rates of Seagate to be 56.1%, 19.5% for Western Digital, and 9% for Toshiba.
hmmm.... will look this stuff over. first time building for someone else, so I want him to be happy with it and have little problems. may change the PSU, as far as RAM, he wont be overclocking and I think a 1333 will be fine.
How's the WD blue's? I've always had blacks.


Thanks for that info...
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post #14 of 31
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Originally Posted by waparson View Post
alright with you guys help. this is what Im looking at.....


DVD Burner $19

Case $30

HDD $40


PSU $40

4GB RAM $50

CPU $72

MOBO $90

That puts it at $341 with a $20 MIR on the PSU, so $321.

Hows that mobo? anyone familiar with it?

Thanks guys, +rep will be added to all those that helped....
Good motherboard, but overpriced for what it is to be honest. It's not any better than the Biostar at $65. If you want something that's definitely better, you'll have to go $100+ and get something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131402

Or perhaps an 890GX mobo like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128435
    
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Good motherboard, but overpriced for what it is to be honest. It's not any better than the Biostar at $65. If you want something that's definitely better, you'll have to go $100+ and get something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131402

Or perhaps an 890GX mobo like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128435
I think I'm just kinda partial to ASUS, only reason for mobo choice, and seemed to have a decent on board video. Biostar customer service anygood? Good products?

Really appreciate the help...
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post #16 of 31
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I think I'm just kinda partial to ASUS, only reason for mobo choice, and seemed to have a decent on board video. Biostar customer service anygood? Good products?

Really appreciate the help...
Hm, I see. Well, I know from personal experience and that of others that the Biostar A880G+ is a good motherboard. As far as customer service, I don't have any idea. I've never had to call them.

Is there any other motherboard manufacturer you like? The only good thing I could find from Asus at a very good pricepoint for your friend's build is this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131619

Edit:

What about this AsRock? Reviews seem to be very positive and I know their customer service is good (helped by in part because they're a subsidiary of ASUS).
Edited by LOL_Wut_Axel - 3/6/11 at 9:47pm
    
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http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...umber=19705727

$278 after rebates, but before shipping.
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post #18 of 31
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Hm, I see. Well, I know from personal experience and that of others that the Biostar A880G+ is a good motherboard. As far as customer service, I don't have any idea. I've never had to call them.

Is there any other motherboard manufacturer you like? The only good thing I could find from Asus at a very good pricepoint for your friend's build is this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131619

Edit:

What about this AsRock? Reviews seem to be very positive and I know their customer service is good (helped by in part because they're a subsidiary of ASUS).
Yup, I liked that ASUS board too, but it only had 2xRAM slots (incase of future upgrades), and it had the 3000 vs. 4200 video chip. major difference between those two?
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post #19 of 31
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Yup, I liked that ASUS board too, but it only had 2xRAM slots (incase of future upgrades), and it had the 3000 vs. 4200 video chip. major difference between those two?
If you want future upgrades, you can pick up a single 4GB DIMM so you can add another one later and make it 8GB. Something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231310

As for the difference between the IGPs, the HD 4250 runs at a higher core and memory clock. Both support the same features, though. The HD 4250 should be a bit faster in gaming.
Edited by LOL_Wut_Axel - 3/6/11 at 10:03pm
    
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Here's an idea:

Rana + 550W PSU

2x2GB 1600-9-9-9 kit

Biostar 880G

Seagate 500GB

Apex ATX Case w/2x120mm fans

Optical Drive

$331 shipped

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