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Originally Posted by xenophobe View Post
The statistical difference of failure rates means nothing to YOU the consumer (and everyone here).

The hard drive you have the best experience with will be based on pure luck. Nothing else.
Agreed... 1-2% difference between companies. Unless you had a few hundred, any preference based on non-systematic failures is subjective.
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user(or even the person who ships it) improperly handles drive
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drive fails
user blames drive manufacturer
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Azo, you're forgetting that those are two different benchmarks. In the first you quoted, CrystalMark was used. In the chart I posted, h2benchw 3.12 was used. The results are not directly compatible. If you want proof of that, notice the WD Black drive in your example achieved 144mb/s, and in the h2benchw 3.12 from Tom's, it achieved 141mb/s.

(Hell, just look at your own benchmarks. Both claim to be testing "max read throughput" and the results are ~10mb/s apart)

In your example, the Hitachi was ~16mb/s faster than the WD Black. (Looking at the Read throughput)

In my example, the F4 is ~17mb/s faster than the WD Black.

Basic math, it looks like the F4 is, if not faster than the Hitachi, almost identical in max read throughput.

Different benchmarks are not created equal. Look at the relative performance to the drive we're using as a baseline (the WD Black).

Now, check out the F4s max write throughput..

Blameless: The F3 isn't faster, but the F4? Looks awfully close to me.
I think you need to go back and read what Blameless said.

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Originally Posted by xenophobe View Post
The statistical difference of failure rates means nothing to YOU the consumer (and everyone here).

The hard drive you have the best experience with will be based on pure luck. Nothing else.
Agreed. Too bad people are too blind to understand.

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user(or even the person who ships it) improperly handles drive
?????????????????
drive fails
user blames drive manufacturer
Because people in general like to blame others when problems occur, they never check the facts and themselves.
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post #104 of 113
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Blameless: The F3 isn't faster, but the F4? Looks awfully close to me.
The F4 320GB is extremely similar in performance to the 7K3000 line. They use roughly the same density platters at the same RPM and are roughly the same speed.

The problem is that 320GB F4 is the only 7200rpm F4. It also cost ~50 dollars.

The 7K3000s offer similar performance (and any advantage is compounded the more data you store, as more platters means more data on the outer edges of those platters) at a much better price per GB.

A 2TB 7K3000 is likely going to handle random writes better because it has four times the cache, has more room on the faster outer tracks, and costs just over twice as much for six times as much space.
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post #105 of 113
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Originally Posted by xenophobe View Post
The statistical difference of failure rates means nothing to YOU the consumer (and everyone here).

The hard drive you have the best experience with will be based on pure luck. Nothing else.
While I agree that all drives can fail, and just because your drive failed doesn't mean you can apply your experience with others' (somebody has to get the unlucky hdd), the percentages still matter. A drive that has a 1% chance of dying is 100% more consistent than a drive w/ 2%. Any person who doesn't consider that a factor needs to re-evaluate.
post #106 of 113
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Originally Posted by Munkypoo7 View Post
Why does purchasing an inferior company mean a decrease in quality?

It's called removing competition, not cheapening products.

WD won't start pumping out crap just because they eliminated one of the competition, that's just stupid.
I agree with you..
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This sucks. Hopefully WD will still maintain the same level of quality and not get dragged down by Hitachi.
You mean proprietary Western Digital BS like WD SmartWare and Virtual CD they install on their external hdds? No thanks, if I buy a external hard drive I decide what goes on it, not Western Digital.
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You mean proprietary Western Digital BS like WD SmartWare and Virtual CD they install on their external hdds? No thanks, if I buy a external hard drive I decide what goes on it, not Western Digital.
you can always buy an enclosure and then decide what drive you want to put in... that way you can get a "wiped" WD Black if you so chose....

guessing you dont get the jump drives with the U3 software on it... I hate those!
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I've always had WD drives, from 80 to 500 GB, out of the 6 i've had, 1 320 GB failed, nothing else, but i still replaced my old 500 with a Samsung F3 1 TB, and i'm now a samsung user, for good
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You mean proprietary Western Digital BS like WD SmartWare and Virtual CD they install on their external hdds? No thanks, if I buy a external hard drive I decide what goes on it, not Western Digital.
wait what. i own a 640 Elements and it has none of those things in it
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