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Why does purchasing an inferior company mean a decrease in quality?

It's called removing competition, not cheapening products.

WD won't start pumping out crap just because they eliminated one of the competition, that's just stupid.
What evidence do you have that proves Hitachi is inferior? The "Deathstar" incident over a decade ago? Hitachi hdd tech is based off IBM, IBM was the pioneer in HDD technology, everyone else just followed along. I have more faith in a company who are the pioneers in hdd manufacturing than any other company that came after.

I deploy 100s of hdds in a server environment annually, amongst the lowest failure rates are Hitachis. The highest are Western Digital.

If your experience is based off a handful of hdds then your experience with hdds is pretty much moot, that statement probably holds true to 90% of the members on this board, because you have no experience in dealing with hdds in volume therefore you have no credible statistical figure, just a emotional figure.

I find it interesting how a few individuals base their measly experience of 1 or 2 drives go online and rant about a brand because their luck with that particular brand didn't last all of eternity.
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Personally, I'll never deal with WD again. Bought a refurb'd HDD from them on newegg for my little brother, was DOA, and they [WD] wanted us to pay shipping to get it to them to get it fixed / replaced.

Called the egg back up and they accepted a full return, and we turned around and bought a seagate HDD.

So, as long as WD doesn't buy out Seagate, I'll be alright.
I would NEVER buy a refurbished drive. It's like asking for it.
     
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Always liked IBM/Hitachi drives. Reliability, with the exception of a one time fiasco almost a decade ago, has been superb.

IBM's drives were great and if anything Hitachi improved the line. Hopefully WD doesn't screw things up.
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What evidence do you have that proves Hitachi is inferior? The "Deathstar" incident over a decade ago? Hitachi hdd tech is based off IBM, IBM was the pioneer in HDD technology, everyone else just followed along. I have more faith in a company who are the pioneers in hdd manufacturing than any other company that came after.

I deploy 100s of hdds in a server environment annually, amongst the lowest failure rates are Hitachis. The highest are Western Digital.

If your experience is based off a handful of hdds then your experience with hdds is pretty much moot, that statement probably holds true to 90% of the members on this board, because you have no experience in dealing with hdds in volume therefore you have no credible statistical figure, just a emotional figure.

I find it interesting how a few individuals base their measly experience of 1 or 2 drives go online and rant about a brand because their luck with that particular brand didn't last all of eternity.
http://translate.google.com/translat...Ftid%3D4023114

- Maxtor 1.04% (previous 1.73%)
- Western Digital 1.45% (previous 0.99%)
- Seagate 2.13% (last 2.58%)
- Samsung 2.47% (previous 1.93%)
- 3.39% Hitachi (last 0.92%)

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I would NEVER buy a refurbished drive. It's like asking for it.
I wasn't all that shocked that it showed up dead. It WAS a refurb after all. What got me was charging me shipping to RMA a drive that showed up dead, refurbished or not. I'd rather buy from a company that's willing to accept a small loss whet it's stuff dies before even arriving rather than making me pay for shipping twice.

But that is my opinion.
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I have an 8 year old 80GB Western Digital drive (IDE!) that is still kicking, in my sig rig. (Just not listed.)
     
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Out of the 100+ hard drives I've owned in the last 15 years, I still have at least one from each major brand that still works fine despite being at least 10 years old.

In my experience, Samsung and Hitachi have failed the least, WD is somewhere in the middle, and Seagate is the worst (I've also owned the most Seagate drives of all).

However, even my sample of 100+ drives is too small to get a really good idea of broader trends regarding failure rates. You'd really need hundreds of examples of each brand to come to any firm conclusions.

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Originally Posted by DjiXas View Post
http://translate.google.com/translat...Ftid%3D4023114

- Maxtor 1.04% (previous 1.73%)
- Western Digital 1.45% (previous 0.99%)
- Seagate 2.13% (last 2.58%)
- Samsung 2.47% (previous 1.93%)
- 3.39% Hitachi (last 0.92%)

This doesn't back the idea that Hitachi is inferior.

Site shows short term and highly variable trends, where WD had higher failure rates than Hitachi in the prior 6 month period, and has the current individual model with greatest failure rates.

Longer term failure rates are clearly in Hitachi's favor: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ab,2681-2.html
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I wasn't all that shocked that it showed up dead. It WAS a refurb after all. What got me was charging me shipping to RMA a drive that showed up dead, refurbished or not. I'd rather buy from a company that's willing to accept a small loss whet it's stuff dies before even arriving rather than making me pay for shipping twice.

But that is my opinion.
Are you sure that they weren't going to refund your shipping costs once they proved that it was broken?
I mean, WD has some of the best customer support I've ever seen. At least for new drives - dunno for the refurbs

Anyway, I honestly don't care about fail rates I only care about performance and support. If you don't back up your stuff, it's your fault HDD failure is regardless of brands so there's really no point in arguing between 1-2% difference between brands in these surveys.
     
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i've had 2 WD drives that died within 30 days from the shop. on the other hand the 2 Seagate drives i've bought have never had issues.

funny. anyways, this could be a good move. didn't Hitachi fix their reputation about the whole Deathstar thing though?
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My Seagate 80GB portable HDD still works after all these years.
    
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