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Hitachi is also currently the fastest 7200rpm drive around.
wroung i think. spinpoint F3s are the fastest.
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wroung i think. spinpoint F3s are the fastest.
The 7K3000 are faster than the F3s.

Essentially, whoever has the highest platter density at a given RPM has the fastest drives at the time.
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Originally Posted by driftingforlife View Post
wroung i think. spinpoint F3s are the fastest.
CrystalMark (7200rpm):



AS SSD (7200rpm):



Someone prove me wrong.

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Edited by AzO - 3/7/11 at 7:21am
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The 7K3000 are faster than the F3s.

Essentially, whoever has the highest platter density at a given RPM has the fastest drives at the time.
my bad. thanks
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Why does purchasing an inferior company mean a decrease in quality?

It's called removing competition, not cheapening products.
However - it's not like that in the real world. Look whay happened when Mercedes Benz purchased Chrysler. They didn't start making better Chrylsers, rather, Mercedes started making junkmobiles.

I think this deal is showing the true light of the situation, that we are now are pretty much at the end of HDDs, with only perhaps Samsung left as a true quality make for mass storage - while a whole host of SSD makers will now emerge with competitive products.

SSDs are not competitive yet, except perhaps in speed, but if they can come up with technology where write cycles don't bork the media, they will have it made. But then, that will only happen when the industry isn't reliant upon Intel based designs, but of advanced designs of high quality from other firms.
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"Deathstar" has nothing to do with Hitachi, it was a IBM issue over a decade ago. IBM gave up on their hdd sector which gave rise to companies like WD and Seagate, IBM finally sold off their failing hdd biz to Hitachi in 2002.
A bit of a correction here:

It was a bit under a decade ago, and both WD and Seagate have been major players in the HDD industry since long before IBM sold their hard drive division to Hitachi.

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However - it's not like that in the real world. Look whay happened when Mercedes Benz purchased Chrysler. They didn't start making better Chrylsers, rather, Mercedes started making junkmobiles.

I think this deal is showing the true light of the situation, that we are now are pretty much at the end of HDDs, with only perhaps Samsung left as a true quality make for mass storage - while a whole host of SSD makers will now emerge with competitive products.

SSDs are not competitive yet, except perhaps in speed, but if they can come up with technology where write cycles don't bork the media, they will have it made. But then, that will only happen when the industry isn't reliant upon Intel based designs, but of advanced designs of high quality from other firms.
Samsung isn't really exceptional as far as the numbers go, for either quality or performance. At best they are well balanced between speed, reliability, and price.

Also, HDDs aren't going anywhere for a while.

SSDs are nice, but it's going to take a major break through for them to be viable and affordable past 500GB or so. Every new generation of NAND flash is more fragile than the last (current top of the line MLC is only rated for 3,000 erase cycles).

Also, who is reliant on Intel based designs? Most SSDs don't use any Intel controlers or NAND.
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I have had good experiences with Hitachi drives. I don't know the exact statistics, but I cannot imagine Hitachi being too far away from the industry average for hard drive failures.
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I had a DeathStar die on me... I think I'll be sticking to Samsung.
Seriously, though, this could be a good purchase for them. Less competition, more production capacity. And the HDD tech has improved a lot during the last 10 years, so these factories are going to be making modern, fast and reliable WD disks.
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Hitachi might make poor drives but they are cheap and they probably make a lot of money from it.(As pointed out by AzO, Hitachi have the lowest failure rate of HDD manufacturers) It makes more sense to buy out a company that's already doing great in that market segment than to try to make roadways in there with your own company.

As for that engadget comment... rofl. Seagate make very good hard drives.
Didn't the Hitachi Deskstars use to be really good drives at one point?
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So... Only Samsung, Western Digital, and Seagate left in the 3.5" HDD space?


Them plus Toshiba in the 2.5" HDD space?
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