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This sucks. Hopefully WD will still maintain the same level of quality and not get dragged down by Hitachi.
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This sucks. Hopefully WD will still maintain the same level of quality and not get dragged down by Hitachi.
Read the thread.

Hitachi has the lowest failure rate out of all of the drive makers on the market right now.

Samsung takes second, with WD coming in third.
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This sucks. Hopefully WD will still maintain the same level of quality and not get dragged down by Hitachi.
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Read the thread.

Hitachi has the lowest failure rate out of all of the drive makers on the market right now.

Samsung takes second, with WD coming in third.
I lol'd.
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For an RMA that's not a DOA RMA, I can understand. But if it shows up dead, I shouldn't have to pay to send it back. And that's a place I'm going to stand firmly.
Good luck with that, if the item arrives DOA and you try to use manufactures warranty, youll have to pay most times(as its usually in the warranty terms that you have to pay for return shipping). Anything arrives DOA ill usually RMA it through the seller instead of the manufacture, its easier to get them to pay for shipping than trying to get the manufacture to pay for it.
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@obsidian86 How is it flawed? Care to explain?

in that review there is not a single samsung drive and the fact that samsung doesn have a 7.2k 1tb + drive
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in that review there is not a single samsung drive and the fact that samsung doesn have a 7.2k 1tb + drive
I have seven Samsung F3s, they are slower than the 7K3000s. All of them top out around 140-145MB/s at the outer edge. The 7K3000 are about 10-15MB/s faster.

Samsung has several 1TB and larger 7200 rpm modles (I have four 1TB 7200RPM F3s).

There is pretty much no way they could be faster. At the same RPM (7200) A 600GB per platter drive is automatically going to be faster than a 500GB per platter drive unless someone seriously screwed up somewhere.

At this moment in time the 7K3000 is the fastest overall 7200rpm drive, and the fastest rotating platter SATA drive when it comes to sequential transfers.

It will be dethroned within a few months, but there is no way to argue it's anything less than what it is now.
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The reason WD bought Hitachi was because WD currently owns about 1% of the market share of enterprise. Hitachi owned about 28% and Seagate has > 50%. That is where Seagate makes all it's money and why they are still around. WD didn't want to take the time to develop new, more reliable heads and media and instead purchased Hitachi to take over their enterprise development and production, instantly gaining market share in a highly profitable segment.

Add to this that Hitachi owned about 20% of all HDD sales (WD and Seagate were both at about 29% and Toshiba and Samsung both at around 10%) and WD would (on paper) own 49% of the market. Of course that won't be how it actually works out as this opens opportunity for Seagate/Toshiba/Samsung to steal that market share.

At the end of the day, it is good for WD and Seagate because Hitachi was dropping prices to ridiculously low levels in a mad dash to gain market share. With them gone, prices will stabilize to their more expensive points. This will make both WD and Seagate more profitable.
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I really don't know if this is good or bad. I guess it is good?
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I really don't know if this is good or bad. I guess it is good?
It's good.

Hopefully the combined resources can step up WD's share in the enterprise segment, a long with give them an edge in reliability.
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You don't need to find charts on F4 vs 7K3000. All you need is a chart that benchmarks the F4 320GB and use those results and compare them against the 7K3000.

I don't know how you look at numbers but how is a F4 320GB 158.10MB/s faster than 160MB/s on the Hitachi?

Azo, you're forgetting that those are two different benchmarks. In the first you quoted, CrystalMark was used. In the chart I posted, h2benchw 3.12 was used. The results are not directly compatible. If you want proof of that, notice the WD Black drive in your example achieved 144mb/s, and in the h2benchw 3.12 from Tom's, it achieved 141mb/s.

(Hell, just look at your own benchmarks. Both claim to be testing "max read throughput" and the results are ~10mb/s apart)

In your example, the Hitachi was ~16mb/s faster than the WD Black. (Looking at the Read throughput)

In my example, the F4 is ~17mb/s faster than the WD Black.

Basic math, it looks like the F4 is, if not faster than the Hitachi, almost identical in max read throughput.

Different benchmarks are not created equal. Look at the relative performance to the drive we're using as a baseline (the WD Black).

Now, check out the F4s max write throughput..

Blameless: The F3 isn't faster, but the F4? Looks awfully close to me.
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