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I have been poking around for awhile on a good way to have my system auto adjust the speeds of the fans (and maybe the pump) as the load changes on my system.

I thought about using PWM fans and using something like


to drive the 6 push/pull fans I have on my 360 rad. It pulls the PWM signal off the CPU header but pulls power directly from the PSU so it doesn't overload the mobo fan header.

But then I started reading about these three items:
  1. mCubed T-Balancer BigNG
  2. Koolance TMS-200
  3. Alphacool Heatmaster
  4. Aquacomputer aquaero 5 XT
  5. Aquacomputer Aquaero 4.00

The 5 XT doesn't start shipping until later this month, but the former Aquaero 4 had decent reviews.

The problem is all the reviews I have read (about 10 of them) are from like 2007 for all these products and the ones for the 5 XT are just announcements that it is coming.

Anyone have any real experience with any of these and can give me a 2011 update on which you would get? I want something I can run at least 11 fans and would watch for flow failure to shut down the system. Other options are a bonus.

Thanks!
post #2 of 17
I have used the koolance and I liked it. No idea about the others tho.
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I went for the motherboard PWM control option for my pumps and fans using the Akasa cables you posted there.

I won't be able to report on how it works out until this weekend because the parts are mostly all sitting on my work table on top of the boxes they came in.

I've got two Swiftech MCP35x PWM controlled pumps, and will be recieving 5 Akasa Viper fans and 3 of those PWM splitter cables later this week.

My plan is to use the PWM CPU fan header to control one pump and 2 vipers on one radiator, and the video card PWM fan header to control the other pump and 2 vipers on my 2nd radiator. The PWM system fan header will control the 5th viper as a rear exhaust fan, and 2 apache black fans used for spot cooling in the case.

I'll be using monitoring software to shut the system off if the CPU or GPU temp goes to high. Realtemp, and Speedfan are both free programs that will do that, with Speedfan being the most feature rich of the 2.
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post #4 of 17
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I went for the motherboard PWM control option for my pumps and fans using the Akasa cables you posted there.

I won't be able to report on how it works out until this weekend because the parts are mostly all sitting on my work table on top of the boxes they came in.

I've got two Swiftech MCP35x PWM controlled pumps, and will be recieving 5 Akasa Viper fans and 3 of those PWM splitter cables later this week.

My plan is to use the PWM CPU fan header to control one pump and 2 vipers on one radiator, and the video card PWM fan header to control the other pump and 2 vipers on my 2nd radiator. The PWM system fan header will control the 5th viper as a rear exhaust fan, and 2 apache black fans used for spot cooling in the case.

I'll be using monitoring software to shut the system off if the CPU or GPU temp goes to high. Realtemp, and Speedfan are both free programs that will do that, with Speedfan being the most feature rich of the 2.
You do know that you can connect those Akasa splitters in series, you could for example have all fans controlled with chassis fan header and pumps with cpu fan header.
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post #5 of 17
if you have a such power spliter then you can go easly with the mobo fan connector to control the fans.
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I have used the koolance and I liked it. No idea about the others tho.
How long have you had it? I was reading all over on *dated* threads about all the software bugs and other issues. Is that all past history or is that still the case.

The "complaint thread" on the Koolance side is dated 2009 and I didn't see anything more current. I am surprised this space hasn't had many updates in years and years. The new 5 XT is the newest thing in about 4 years from what I can see. Even the BigNG looks like it is under a company named HAX with no real updates in years.
post #7 of 17
I use something like this this : http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...937c1e8057a283 with two Akasa splitters to control six Akasa Viper fans.

For voltage controlled fans this looks interesting : http://forum.aquacomputer.de/weitere...poweradjust-2/ . 24 W is enough for a lot of Gentle Typhoons.
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Good question about fan controllers. There are some manual models with auto options. One I'm aware of, and owned, was the Scythe Kaze Server, although it can handle 1 amp per channel max. I did like how it ramped up fan speed accordingly, and was not PWM. That header you show is a pretty good idea, although I don't know how well your motherboard's pwm controls are.
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You do know that you can connect those Akasa splitters in series, you could for example have all fans controlled with chassis fan header and pumps with cpu fan header.
Yes, but I want the radiator fans to speed up along with the pumps when more CPU or GPU cooling is needed.

In my current setup I have 1300rpm PWM case fans connected to the chassis fan header, they only ever ramp up above 50% during long LinX stability test runs. at idle and normal use, they sit there running at around 250rpm
That is part of what convinced me to not bother with water cooling my motherboard.

I plan on trying out a lot of different fan control configurations, so who knows, they may end up run by the chassis fan header by the time it is all done.
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post #10 of 17
What pumps are you using that require a speed controller? I'm using dual D5B pumps in series and it's as loud as a WD Black hard drive. No need to cut cooling loop power, when it's not really the source of noise. You might as well just control the fans, and let the loop push water. I have my fans on a Lamptron FC-2, and the pumps run full speed. It can be loud or quiet, depending on my needs.
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