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I tried going this route awhile ago, but found that it left my vcore at the overclocked value at all times. This seems to be a problem with the BIOS integrating C1E properly. Do you have a b3 and is your motherboard properly adjusting the voltage down to idle voltages?

Edit: D'oh! I thought I read MSI motherboard, you have an Asus. doh.gif NEVERMIND! doh.gif

No, not entirely, but it's coming along as bios matures. It does if I leave voltage on auto or use offset to set it though. MSI bios has a ways to come yet.
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I give up. I think I'm going to pull this crap setup out of my case, and go back to my Athlon.

I still can't get this thing to budge over stock. I think I fix it, I tweak one thing and it screws it over again.
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No, not entirely, but it's coming along as bios matures. It does if I leave voltage on auto or use offset to set it though. MSI bios has a ways to come yet.
Yeah, MSI may shoot out a ton of version updates pretty quickly, but there are some features I'm still waiting to see make it into their BIOS.

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I give up. I think I'm going to pull this crap setup out of my case, and go back to my Athlon.

I still can't get this thing to budge over stock. I think I fix it, I tweak one thing and it screws it over again.
Stick with it man, it's worth it in the end. I admit that Intel kinda switched things up a bit with this platform as many of us are used to changing certain settings in BIOS and being able to move forward. It's definitely been quite a learning experience for me, that's for sure.
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Sandy bridge-BIOS?!
Also just to comment on the voltage I've seen many people say that 1.38v would be the highest "safe" voltage but Intel still claims that 1.52v is.
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Sandy bridge-BIOS?!
Also just to comment on the voltage I've seen many people say that 1.38v would be the highest "safe" voltage but Intel still claims that 1.52v is.
We're obviously referring to the BIOS of the motherboard, but as the platform has changed, so have configurations in the respective BIOS settings. The infamous 1.52v refers to VID which is not the same as vcore and as Intel hasn't given a "safe" vcore value, it's still up to much debate. 1.38v is something that AFAIK started when someone had their CPU die, and it started rolling downhill from there. (I and many others have been WAY past 1.38v since launch, and haven't seen any degradation or killing of their cpu's.)
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We're obviously referring to the BIOS of the motherboard, but as the platform has changed, so have configurations in the respective BIOS settings. (I and many others have been WAY past 1.38v since launch, and haven't seen any degradation or killing of their cpu's.)
The first part of my comment is me being stupid and sarcastic on how the OP's motherboard doesn't have UEFI .
Also how can you notice significant degradation so quickly if Sandy Bridge hasn't even been released for so long?
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The first part of my comment is me being stupid and sarcastic on how the OP's motherboard doesn't have UEFI .
Also how can you notice significant degradation so quickly if Sandy Bridge hasn't even been released for so long?
I could honestly care less if my board has UEFI. If it works, it works. And there IS something in there about it, I just have not screwed with it yet, because I don't like messing with things unfamiliar to me.

The problem still persists though. Even after changing my power settings and all that jazz, my CPU STILL will not pass 4.5GHz at most using turbo. And if I disable C1E / Speedstep (all that crap), and force it to use just one multi, it's locked on at 33x, and won't budge.
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The first part of my comment is me being stupid and sarcastic on how the OP's motherboard doesn't have UEFI .
Also how can you notice significant degradation so quickly if Sandy Bridge hasn't even been released for so long?
If you're exceeding max safe voltage by a whopping 300mV, I'm pretty sure you'd see some electron migration occurring even after a few months. Whether or not it'd be noticeable is something that I'm sure is possible, even this early in the game. Sorry, sometimes humor doesn't translate well over the internet. Looking back at your comment, I did have to chuckle a little.

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I could honestly care less if my board has UEFI. If it works, it works. And there IS something in there about it, I just have not screwed with it yet, because I don't like messing with things unfamiliar to me.

The problem still persists though. Even after changing my power settings and all that jazz, my CPU STILL will not pass 4.5GHz at most using turbo. And if I disable C1E / Speedstep (all that crap), and force it to use just one multi, it's locked on at 33x, and won't budge.
Ugh, I really wish there was a standard way all board manufacturer's would agree upon when coming up with naming schemes and operation of their product. It's like learning to speak a new language all over again every time you hit that delete key on bootup with a new mobo manufacturer.

I don't remember if this has been asked before, but do you have the newest BIOS? A few other board makers had a similar issue where it would lock their multiplier to a set value. If this has been asked already, my bad.
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If you're exceeding max safe voltage by a whopping 300mV, I'm pretty sure you'd see some electron migration occurring even after a few months. Whether or not it'd be noticeable is something that I'm sure is possible, even this early in the game. Sorry, sometimes humor doesn't translate well over the internet. Looking back at your comment, I did have to chuckle a little.


Ugh, I really wish there was a standard way all board manufacturer's would agree upon when coming up with naming schemes and operation of their product. It's like learning to speak a new language all over again every time you hit that delete key on bootup with a new mobo manufacturer.

I don't remember if this has been asked before, but do you have the newest BIOS? A few other board makers had a similar issue where it would lock their multiplier to a set value. If this has been asked already, my bad.
Yes, I have tried the latest BIOS, and the other two earlier releases. I have 3 BIOS's total available to me, at this time. None fix it.

I can sit here and stress test it all day at 4.5GHz using turbo only (with C1E / Speedstep / other crap turned on), at a whopping 1.33v. But 4.6GHz, no matter voltage (tried 1.33 - 1.52v) it throttles back to 4.5GHz, again...using turbo only. If I try to set it to a static multiplier and disable the power crap, it locks on at 33x and won't budge at all.
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Yes, I have tried the latest BIOS, and the other two earlier releases. I have 3 BIOS's total available to me, at this time. None fix it.

I can sit here and stress test it all day at 4.5GHz using turbo only (with C1E / Speedstep / other crap turned on), at a whopping 1.33v. But 4.6GHz, no matter voltage (tried 1.33 - 1.52v) it throttles back to 4.5GHz, again...using turbo only. If I try to set it to a static multiplier and disable the power crap, it locks on at 33x and won't budge at all.
Well, I just downloaded your manual, and don't see anything strange on your part. The only thing different I would try is to see if this "Toverclocker" program could push you over the 4.5Ghz hurdle. It seems counter-intuitive, but it's always worth a shot. It seems like you've jumped through about as many hoops as possible, but the next step would be to contact Biostar's tech support and see if there's something we're missing. (Unless someone here with Biostar experience can pipe in.)
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