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I have read that Joomla was already slow and adding plugins to any of the sites beyond just a few would cause a bit of a slowdown for both the developer and end user. How true is this?
I can't really comment on Joomla as I don't have much experience with it, but my Wordpress installation has a ton of plugins active and it's still plenty fast. Granted, it's not on typical shared hosting. I'm using a VPS so that I can run other applications and configure the environment as I wish.
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I can't really comment on Joomla as I don't have much experience with it, but my Wordpress installation has a ton of plugins active and it's still plenty fast. Granted, it's not on typical shared hosting. I'm using a VPS so that I can run other applications and configure the environment as I wish.
So you use a dedicated server then? How much is it a month for such a service?

I have been looking at the three most popular, but none of them are dedicated to my knowledge:
  1. BlueHost
  2. HostMonster
  3. WebHostingPad

They should still be pretty fast though. I also looked at these through reviews such as Upperhost.com
post #13 of 19
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So you use a dedicated server then? How much is it a month for such a service?

I have been looking at the three most popular, but none of them are dedicated to my knowledge:
  1. BlueHost
  2. HostMonster
  3. WebHostingPad

They should still be pretty fast though. I also looked at these through reviews such as Upperhost.com
Not quite a dedicated server. You get similar features to a dedicated server in that you can run almost anything you want, but you don't get the full performance of the machine. One dedicated server is split into "slices", and each slice is a VPS.

There are different Virtualization technologies that determine performance and some have technical limitations. Some of them will not allow you to build your own kernel (OpenVZ, for instance), so you cannot add modules on your own and you'll have to submit a ticket and have the provider do it. OpenVZ is considered "budget", but it still performs fairly well assuming the node (host machine) isn't overloaded. Xen HVM will allow you to do whatever you wish as if you had your own dedicated machine, and is considered to offer better performance. As expected, it costs a bit more.

You can find VPS' anywhere between a $3 to $90+ per month. It all depends on the technical specifications and levels of support that you need.
Edited by tehmaggot - 3/7/11 at 1:53pm
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Does WordPress allow for the editing of content directly on the page?
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Does WordPress allow for the editing of content directly on the page?
If you're logged in to WordPress then an edit link will be visible which will let you edit the page you're looking at.

Anyway, having used all three to some extent, I will say you can't really go wrong using either WordPress or Drupal. Joomla, well, I have yet to see a Joomla website I like; Joomla is a bit strange internally.

The big thing to remember here is that Drupal is large and complex, and most sites do not need the complexity it requires. Moreover, a Drupal installation is typically very heavy; it can stress the resources of even a dedicated server. It's often unworkable on shared hosting.

And while WordPress is definitely the strongest at blogging, that's by no means all it can do; it is perfectly capable of serving as a full featured CMS. It's also MUCH lighter weight than Drupal.

My recommendation is that you use WordPress unless you have some requirement that can only be fulfilled with Drupal. And then prepare to pay a lot more for hosting the site.
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If you're logged in to WordPress then an edit link will be visible which will let you edit the page you're looking at.

Anyway, having used all three to some extent, I will say you can't really go wrong using either WordPress or Drupal. Joomla, well, I have yet to see a Joomla website I like; Joomla is a bit strange internally.

The big thing to remember here is that Drupal is large and complex, and most sites do not need the complexity it requires. Moreover, a Drupal installation is typically very heavy; it can stress the resources of even a dedicated server. It's often unworkable on shared hosting.

And while WordPress is definitely the strongest at blogging, that's by no means all it can do; it is perfectly capable of serving as a full featured CMS. It's also MUCH lighter weight than Drupal.

My recommendation is that you use WordPress unless you have some requirement that can only be fulfilled with Drupal. And then prepare to pay a lot more for hosting the site.
Sounds like I should just use WordPress and at least give it a try. I will be doing a site focus for women that has a directory, blog, video, community calender, forum, regular advertising, and somehow I will have to also have a section for individual cities for some stuff tailored to that city (currently only 3 cities). The way they currently have it is three sub tabs (i.e. L.A., SF, and San Diego and each has a couple articles or event announcement for that area).

And I am developing this for someone so the easier it is to use and edit (i.e. add an article or post an update) the better.

Sound like something I can do in WordPress easily enough? It is a redesign of a current site for a client of mine. Will probably be migrating them to BlueHost, HostMonster, or WebHostingPad.
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Sound like something I can do in WordPress easily enough?
You'll need to find the right combination of theme and plugins, but that's the fun... Once you are setup, the pages can be edited/updated by less experienced users pretty easily. And it automatically saves each version of each page, so if you make a huge mistake you can always revert to a previous version of that page. You can even find plugins that let you control which pages your users can edit.

It does, however, take some time and experimenting to get things setup to suit one's individual needs...
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It really all comes down to what you want to accomplish. Wordpress and Wordpress MU are awesome tools in their own right, but cannot do some of the other things say Drupal or Joomla can do and vice versa. Finding the right one for you I think comes down to research into what and how you want to do what you want to do. Their are TONS of plugins/mods/etc for each one so finding the best and easiest combination to achieve something complex is sometimes difficult. All in all, wordpress fits the bill more often that not. I have been getting more into open source "portals" myself lately. But that is because I am stubborn as hell and prefer my stuff simple and/or coded by hand as much as I can get it. I have to know the ins and outs or I get lost easily in others code.

My suggestion is to literally try each one like I did. I went through the net and got every major open source/free CMS and played with each one to a great point. They change frequently, but generally you get crucial experience for answering questions like the one you posted this thread about. Hope this helped you!

Here are the links I have bookmarked in regards to this topic:
http://www.allwebdesignresources.com...-cms-software/
http://www.scriptol.com/cms/list.php
http://spyrestudios.com/free-content...ement-systems/
http://www.steptwo.com.au/papers/kmc_selectionmistakes
http://wpgarage.com/wordpress-as-cms...ss-into-a-cms/
http://css-tricks.com/php-for-beginn...st-simple-cms/
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It really all comes down to what you want to accomplish. Wordpress and Wordpress MU are awesome tools in their own right, but cannot do some of the other things say Drupal or Joomla can do and vice versa. Finding the right one for you I think comes down to research into what and how you want to do what you want to do. Their are TONS of plugins/mods/etc for each one so finding the best and easiest combination to achieve something complex is sometimes difficult. All in all, wordpress fits the bill more often that not. I have been getting more into open source "portals" myself lately. But that is because I am stubborn as hell and prefer my stuff simple and/or coded by hand as much as I can get it. I have to know the ins and outs or I get lost easily in others code.

My suggestion is to literally try each one like I did. I went through the net and got every major open source/free CMS and played with each one to a great point. They change frequently, but generally you get crucial experience for answering questions like the one you posted this thread about. Hope this helped you!

Here are the links I have bookmarked in regards to this topic:
http://www.allwebdesignresources.com...-cms-software/
http://www.scriptol.com/cms/list.php
http://spyrestudios.com/free-content...ement-systems/
http://www.steptwo.com.au/papers/kmc_selectionmistakes
http://wpgarage.com/wordpress-as-cms...ss-into-a-cms/
http://css-tricks.com/php-for-beginn...st-simple-cms/

Thanks... I will be checking these out... + rep
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