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I still blame the idiot hackers for this mess. The corporate response is always the same, and for the same good reasons. A company has every right to protect its intellectual property, and the idiots who try to steal it are only making life miserable for the rest of us. If anybody's 3DS gets bricked inappropriately, you can thank everybody who hacked a DS and made Nintendo want stronger Anti-piracy.
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Originally Posted by OmegaNemesis28 View Post
Because - you changing an air filter doesn't mean you're breaching anything with Ford other than their warranty.
You taking a Nintendo DS, which has Nintendo software on it and modifying it which thus leads to POTENTIAL illegal activities has nothing in remote comparison to you changing an air filter on your car.

Your comparing an air filter to copyrighted and protected software - the firmware. It's completely different and your comparison is broken logically.
If I change the airfilter, does Ford give a flip? No - I just loose my warranty (does that even break a warranty?) Same thing if I change the LEDs in my PS3 or DS. I just loose the warranty - Sony or Nintendo doesn't care otherwise!

If I change the firmware, which is copyrighted/protected and non-changeable to the hardware like you purchased it, to something that Sony or Nintendo doesn't like and it has the slightest potential of piracy which leads to hundreds of different bad things to the product *ahem PSP* - Sony and Nintendo cares. Changing an airfilter is not a valid comparison.

If you're telling me that changing an airfilter will somehow lead Ford's car to become considered illegal and has the ability to lead to tons of potential losses in Ford's business because suddenly all of their cars in the entire world are compromised..... then I give up.
by your logic, the police can arrest me for leaving my house because I may rob a bank on the way home from the grocery store. this is reality, not minority report.
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Let me just say that the only point you two will agree on is that the both of you are not on the same page. People against piracy-stopping tactics like these will always hate on them, and people for piracy-stopping tactics like these will always encourage them.

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by your logic, the police can arrest me for leaving my house because I may rob a bank on the way home from the grocery store. this is reality, not minority report.

You two seem to misunderstand me completely. I never said I agree with Nintendo. ANYWHERE. Get that straight.
But at the same time, Im not going to just accept posts about how modifying a protected firmware is like changing an airfilter in a car just because that person is on my side as well. That's not how things should work. It's a poor/broken argument, just because I'm on his side doesn't mean I should excuse it.


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this is reality, not minority report.
You want to know what is reality? That I never said anything like that, and you're the one in fantasy world.

If you're going to assume things and make stuff up about how Im in support of Nintendo, don't respond to me. I never said anything like that.

You walking home from a grocery store has nothing to do with anything that I said.
Walking home with a grocery store doesn't violate or exploit anything to begin with. By modifying the DS, you are exploiting and violating something. And ALSO leads to potential piracy. Did you violate the grocery store by robbing it first and then now have the POTENTIAL to rob the bank next?
Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 3/7/11 at 1:52pm
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post #64 of 188
I'll laugh when a bug in an update bricks unhacked 3DS. It's bound to happen sooner or later.
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post #65 of 188
Lol this won't fly with the "scene".
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Originally Posted by OmegaNemesis28 View Post
You two seem to misunderstand me completely. I never said I agree with Nintendo. ANYWHERE. Get that straight.
...

If you're going to assume things and make stuff up about how Im in support of Nintendo, don't respond to me. I never said anything like that.
And can you tell me where I said that you did?


EDIT For everyone saying that piracy should just be ignored because of the cost (in terms of effort, resources, money, etc.), consider this analogy: If someone bigger than you was kicking your ass, you shouldn't even try to do anything about it. Just let them kick your ass, because the effort and time you put into making them not kick your ass is going to be wasted anyway.

Now, I challenge anyone to try to come up with a solution for the person who is getting their assed kick to stop getting his/her ass kicked.
Edited by onoz - 3/7/11 at 1:54pm
 
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I still blame the idiot hackers for this mess. The corporate response is always the same, and for the same good reasons. A company has every right to protect its intellectual property, and the idiots who try to steal it are only making life miserable for the rest of us. If anybody's 3DS gets bricked inappropriately, you can thank everybody who hacked a DS and made Nintendo want stronger Anti-piracy.
On OCN the pirates are the heroes, everyone will tell you that they don't intend to pirate but use homebrews (which we all know 1% of people buying an R4 are inrerested in) or use Linux all of a sudden on their PS3 even though they never intended to before the hack was released. A company trying to stop people from stealing its property is considered evil on this forum.
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post #68 of 188
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And can you tell me where I said that you did?
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Let me just say that the only point you two will agree on is that the both of you are not on the same page. People against piracy-stopping tactics like these will always hate on them, and people for piracy-stopping tactics like these will always encourage them.
"You two" is referring to me and him.
Clearly, he wasn't the one for the piracy-stopping tactics so therefore you assumed I was just because I was calling him out on his analogy.

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On OCN the pirates are the heroes, everyone will tell you that they don't intend to pirate but use homebrews (which we all know 1% of people buying an R4 are inrerested in) or use Linux all of a sudden on their PS3 even though they never intended to before the hack was released. A company trying to stop people from stealing its property is considered evil on this forum.
I agree completely with this post.
Though, I dont necessarily agree with Nintendo's method but I understand the logic of it.
Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 3/7/11 at 1:56pm
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whoa nintendo aint jokin.
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On OCN the pirates are the heroes, everyone will tell you that they don't intend to pirate but use homebrews (which we all know 1% of people buying an R4 are inrerested in) or use Linux all of a sudden on their PS3 even though they never intended to before the hack was released. A company trying to stop people from stealing its property is considered evil on this forum.
I loath pirates.
I actually want to run homebrew and linux. I just loath the idea of some corporation telling me what I can and cannot do with something I bought.
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