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I still blame the idiot hackers for this mess. The corporate response is always the same, and for the same good reasons. A company has every right to protect its intellectual property, and the idiots who try to steal it are only making life miserable for the rest of us. If anybody's 3DS gets bricked inappropriately, you can thank everybody who hacked a DS and made Nintendo want stronger Anti-piracy.
You can blame whoever you want, but ultimately there is no way to argue that Nintendo does not have control over their anti-piracy strategies.

Guess what?

Half of Nintendo's paying customers are pirates. The vast majority of people I know with a DS pirate at least some of their games for it. If this was not possible, most of these people would never have bought the system.

So, what do you think is smarter for Nintendo? To make absolutely nothing off people like me, who neither pirate, nor purchase their products (newest Nintendo system I own is an SNES)? Or to make hundreds off each and every pirate out there?

Nintendo thinks just like you, and it's what's eventually going to run them into the ground.
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"You two" is referring to me and him.
Clearly, he wasn't the one for the piracy-stopping tactics so therefore you assumed I was just because I was calling him out on his analogy.
If that's the case, my misunderstanding is with him, not you. I thought he was for Nintendo's strategy and you were against it.
 
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by your logic, the police can arrest me for leaving my house because I may rob a bank on the way home from the grocery store. this is reality, not minority report.
If you change the ECU mapping on your car / paint the car etc you may be arrested as it is illegal in most countries to modify your car without permission.

I fail to see why anyone would buy a 3DS other than to play 3DS games on it. Would you buy a dish washer so you can convert it to a cloth washer? I don't understand the logic some people have...

If you want to use your car analogy, would you buy a Ford modeo so you can put a mastung engine in it? No you wouldn't, as well as being illegal to boot anyway.
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I loath pirates.
I actually want to run homebrew and linux. I just loath the idea of some corporation telling me what I can and cannot do with something I bought.
Except they have every right to do so in some cases. Though there are varying degrees of "extreme" in my opinion. This is super extreme so therefore I'm not in favor of it.

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If that's the case, my misunderstanding is with him, not you. I thought he was for Nintendo's strategy and you were against it.
Ah.
No he was saying that if he can change the airfilter in his car without getting it "deactivated", why can't he change the firmware in his DS without getting "deactivated" as well.
I disagree with Nintendo doing this, but I certainly disagree with a logic like that as well.
Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 3/7/11 at 2:03pm
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If you change the ECU mapping on your car / paint the car etc you may be arrested as it is illegal in most countries to modify your car without permission.

I fail to see why anyone would buy a 3DS other than to play 3DS games on it. Would you buy a dish washer so you can convert it to a cloth washer? I don't understand the logic some people have...

If you want to use your car analogy, would you buy a Ford modeo so you can put a mastung engine in it? No you wouldn't, as well as being illegal to boot anyway.
ist more like buying an android phone, rooting it, and installing custom roms.
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ist more like buying an android phone, rooting it, and installing custom roms.
Actually an android phone has 2 parties. Google for the OS and Samsung for example for the hardware. Samsung doesn't really care what OS you use as long as they sell their hardware.

All it does is void your warranty so you don't get support.

In this case Nintendo owns both the hardware and the software and they want users to use them both together.

The only phone maker that is analogus to this is the iPhone and Blackberry where Apple and RIM own both software and hardware and they follow same tactics. They do not want you to use homebrew software.
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Actually an android phone has 2 parties. Google for the OS and Samsung for example for the hardware. Samsung doesn't really care what OS you use as long as they sell their hardware.

All it does is void your warranty so you don't get support.

In this case Nintendo owns both the hardware and the software and they want users to use them both together.

The only phone maker that is analogus to this is the iPhone and Blackberry where Apple and RIM own both software and hardware and they follow same tactics. They do not want you to use homebrew software.
Bingo.

HP and Windows = Samsung and Android
Nintendo and DS/firmware = Apple and iPhone/iOS
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Actually an android phone has 2 parties. Google for the OS and Samsung for example for the hardware. Samsung doesn't really care what OS you use as long as they sell their hardware.

All it does is void your warranty so you don't get support.

In this case Nintendo owns both the hardware and the software and they want users to use them both together.

The only phone maker that is analogus to this is the iPhone and Blackberry where Apple and RIM own both software and hardware and they follow same tactics. They do not want you to use homebrew software.
yet people can legally jailbreak iphones. see my point here?
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Good, it's nice to see companies protecting their hardware.
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yet people can legally jailbreak iphones. see my point here?
There can be technical differences though depending on how it's brought about.

"Jailbreaking" your PS3 is different from jailbreaking an iPhone.
Your using Sony's patented and copyrighted signature keys to trick the patented and copyrighted software to run not-really-signed software.

Jailbreaking an iPhone simply allows the installation/usage of unsigned software - that's the simplified version of it at least.
That's why the whole "jailbreaking" the PS3 is significantly different from jailbreaking and iPhone and is making its way in court.

As for the 3DS, it's quite possible that Nintendo might try for the same thing depending on how the 3DS gets "jailbroken" if you will. A cart might be a different story.

Though - you should read the article:
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Retailers in Japan are being warned by Nintendo that it will disable a 3DS if illegal games are detected running on it
If ilegal games are detected running on it.
It doesn't specify if you're running homebrew. Though, that could very well be nulled depending on how the 3DS would run homebrew.
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