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yet people can legally jailbreak iphones. see my point here?
Yet Apple still tries to stop you from jailbreaking it. If you jailbreak an iPhone, Apple then stops suporting you / some apps dont work properly etc. Apple has stated times and times again that if they see fit they can kill the phone remotely, same with Google and android.

For example I know that when you have Skype on a untinkered phone you can have skype in the background and recieve calls. As soon as you JB the phone you lose this functionality.

The reason why Apple isn't bricking phones left and right (even though it used to when it updated a JB system) is because it isn't affecting them directly revenue wise. It affects the app developers more.

However you be sure that the moment offical Apple apps that you have to pay are obtained illegally the phones will be bricked.

Nintendo though SELLS games as well. While homebrewing does not mean pirated games, 90% of the ppl that will use homebrew software IS to play illegally obtained games.

So again in any type of product that has more than 1 involved parties, i.e 1 providing hardware the other software the other OS, it is more difficult to compare than a product that has a single party providing 90% of the content.
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Good, it's nice to see companies protecting their hardware.
They should just pack it inside a safe and not include the key.
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Nintendo isn't a charity, they have every right to fight piracy. Whether or not we like their methodology is irrelevant

Yeah but this methodology is akin to you buying a car and being limited to only Chevron fuel... don't worry about alternate company's mixes OR (in the case of Diesel) recycled deep fry oil, it's just plain wrong to kill a device someone's paid good money for to appease your sense of propriety protection


Preventing pirated software from running on your console is fair enough... permanently locking it out from the end user is abhorrent!



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If you change the ECU mapping on your car / paint the car etc you may be arrested as it is illegal in most countries to modify your car without permission.
In what country can't you legally repaint your own car?

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I fail to see why anyone would buy a 3DS other than to play 3DS games on it. Would you buy a dish washer so you can convert it to a cloth washer? I don't understand the logic some people have...
They are excellent at cleaning the built up crud on motherboards from a smoking environment (you just can't use the M/B straight away), you can also cook a silver foil wrapped fish in them too!

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If you want to use your car analogy, would you buy a Ford modeo so you can put a mastung engine in it? No you wouldn't, as well as being illegal to boot anyway.
Why not? don't you watch automotive modifying programs? people like a challenge! beside all engineering work needs to certified before it goes back on the road anyway... terrible analogy right there!
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This just makes me want to buy it even more.
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Yeah but this methodology is akin to you buying a car and being limited to only Chevron fuel... don't worry about alternate company's mixes OR (in the case of Diesel) recycled deep fry oil, it's just plain wrong to kill a device someone's paid good money for to appease your sense of propriety protection


Preventing pirated software from running on your console is fair enough... permanently locking it out from the end user is abhorrent!
The end user using the device in a way they shouldn't is abhorrent.
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So... what if they never update firmware or connect to the internet... win?
yup
its a win
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The end user using the device in a way they shouldn't is abhorrent.

Being dictated to by Corporate entities is abhorrent! it's bad enough Governments make up silly "nanny laws" to curb the individual's rights/freedoms... do you support totalitarianism do you?


Perhaps you shouldn't modify your PC from stock then eh?
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This is okay in my book, AS LONG as it's only for piracy and NOT homebrew.
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Both are still in the wrong. You buy something you should be able to use it.
One is less wrong, because they are attempting to brick machines engaged in piracy; while the other is more wrong, because they want to take back a feature because their firmware and security was genuine phony garbage.

Even if they claim "intellectual property", I think there may be a very real issue with a company bombing onto a system and erasing data, because they do not have the right to delete any of your data, except pehaps that data that has been pirated. Any method to do this better be absolutely bug free and precise. Otherwise, it is nothing more than a virus, malware like any other. Sony got burned with their Rootkits...
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Bad comparison. If you pirate then they have the right to go after you. If you have not pirated then you have nothing to worry about.
This is like saying that it is right for a store to come by and impound a house because the kid that lives there stole a chocolate bar.

The Sony case has nothing to do with piracy - it has everything to do with them shutting off systems that were operating as designed and as sold.

Nintendo may not be able to carry through with their bricking, because they do not have the right to brick the entire machine and destroy people's data. Someone could have a pile of entirely legitimate games, and the one pirated one would brick all of the legitimate games; or a bug could entirely brick legitmate systems; or the scheme could be purloined to enable pirated systems only while bricking legitimate systems.

Besides, the main monetary loss from piracy is not someone with a game or two they grabbed from some warez site, but entire factories that crank out fake products, games and consoles included. But because most of these factories are in China or other nations run by corrupt officials that are on the take - companies would rather diddle around with their worthless schemes and campaigns of harassment against their customers.
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