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So I want to do a new build to satisfy my tinkering needs, support gaming for 4-5 years (not necessarily on the very highest graphics settings), do some HD video editing, and play music . The immediate goal is to be ready for Battlefield 3. I will be running Win7 Pro 64-bit (already have it through MSDN subscription).

I want to spend as little as possible, but I won't scrimp where it's not necessary; I want the very latest technology as long as it's not way up the price curve. I also want to get into overclocking, I've been into computers for a while, but never tried to really push the hardware. So I'm particularly looking for components that will allow / handle tinkering.

CPU: i5-2500K. I also looked at the i7-950, but it's $60 more. For overclocking and tinkering, the 2500k just seems better, and will be completely appropriate for my real needs. I don't need the fastest system, just a faster one.

Mobo: Asus P8P67 Pro. Sad that they're not really in stock anywhere, but I can be patient.

Memory $55: I just picked 4 compatible gigs off newegg: N82E16820145263. I figure I can get 4 more later, again, trying to keep the initial build price down down down.

GPU $200: MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 1GD5/OC. N82E16814127510. My plan is to start with 1, and then get another in a year maybe and run 'em together.

HD $175: My current setup is a 32G system drive with a 1TB data drive for all the movies and big game installs. What I want to do is get a SSD for the system, do the big games on the system drive, and leave the data (music, movies) on the data drive. So I've chosen an Intel 80 Gig SSD (N82E16820167031). Although I think I have a 300 gig drive laying around, I could just use that and wait 'til SSD prices come down.

Now: Case and Power. For the case I'll either use my current ATX mid tower, or get one of the well reviewed cases I've seen mentioned. No questions there. For power, I need to plan for potentially getting another GTX 460, but even then I can't see that I would need more than 350 watts. Why does everyone seem to be getting 750W PSUs? I chose a 450W PSU (N82E16817151074).

So, final questions: Will the GPU run Battlefield 3 at a reasonably high level? Is there a reason I should go on the Radeon side (5870 maybe) for pairing up later on? Is this a setup that will satisfy my needs for the next 4-5 years, perhaps with a few upgrades along the way for graphics, a better processor, etc?

Thanks! I look forward to learning and contributing as time goes on!
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post #2 of 23
Looks like a solid build, man. As far as your GPU question goes obviously no one can give you a final answer, the game is in alpha stages of development. However, the performance you'll receive is all based off of the resolution you will be running.

If you're 1680x1050 you should get great performance. I can't speak for anything higher than that. BF3 will be utilizing DX11, so if the dev's keep their promises towards the PC community and we see DX11 at launch, you won't have to worry much about it not handling the game.
post #3 of 23
Get a hd6870 insted.
U can find them for as low as $200 at newegg.
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Looks good for a start. First suggestion: get a quality 600w+ psu if you do plan on cfx, or sli. For the decision on what gpu to get, it all depends on what deals you can find on DX11 cards (Amd 5000 and 6000 series, Nvidia 400 and 500 series). You should keep looking for deals and comparing prices to benchmarks to find the ideal card for you.
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Thanks E-Peen... Yeah I guess we won't no for sure until it installs and runs, but I'd like to have something that has a shot of doing pretty well...

Just checked at microcenter, the i5-2500k is $180 there! Why is the i7-950 selling for $200? The i5-2500k has a faster base speed, unlocked, newer and all that... Maybe they're not selling as well because of the chipset bruhaha / imbroglio? Maybe i7 really gets people all hot and stuff?
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post #6 of 23
the 2500k and Asus board are solid

for memory i would go with this Gskill Ripjaws X kit. its DDR3 1600, has better timings at 7-8-7-24 and its 1.5v which is better suited for sandy bridge CPUs. remember more sticks puts more load on the memory controller that is integrated into the CPU which can hurt your OCing ability down the line. 4GB should be good for a while tho.

the GTX460 is a pretty strong card for $200... if you can chip in another $49, you can get a GTX560 for $250, they are much stronger. either of those cards will run games very well, but we need to know what resolution you will be playing at to make sure.

that seasonic unit should be ok for the rig as it is now, but 450w might not be enough with an OC'd CPU and 2 GTX460s. that PSU is split into 2 rails, so you will either have the CPU and one GPU on one rail or 2 GPUs on one rail. either of those configurations with pull more than 17amps. i would recommend a 550-600w. plus that unit only has 2 PCIe plugs and you will need both of those for 1 460/560. ill search around for something that has 4 PCIe plugs i the 600w ish range.... this isnt common, and you can use adapters if need be.

EDIT:
This XFX Core edition 650w has 2 6pins and 2 6+2pins, 53amps on a single 12v Rail and its 650w... its a great PSU. this will easily handle GTX460/560 SLI and OC your CPU, etc. its $89 right now, so go for it

here are a few PSUs to look at.
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Thanks so much for your support and answers! I have updated the PSU as recommended, and changed the memory to Ripjaws. Today I will be researching graphics cards, both for individual performance, and capabilities when SLI'd / CFX'd.

Question: Should I edit my initial post with the new decisions? I guess not because that would make all your responses seem strange...
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To be honest, watch this video


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Thanks so much for your support and answers! I have updated the PSU as recommended, and changed the memory to Ripjaws. Today I will be researching graphics cards, both for individual performance, and capabilities when SLI'd / CFX'd.

Question: Should I edit my initial post with the new decisions? I guess not because that would make all your responses seem strange...

what do you want to spend on graphics cards?

the best perforamance/price cards right now are the GTX560 Ti and 6950 1GB. both scale really well in CLI/CFX. they are around $250 each. the 6950 1gb is just a 1gb version of the first 6950 2gb that came out, which was originally a $300 card. but then the GTX560 came out at $250 so AMD released the 6950 1GB to compete with it. the 6950 is a hair quicker, by a few FPS, in many games, but both cards will play anything really well. which one you get just depends on if you play games with Nvidia PhysX or you want to Fold (nvidia is much better at folding). GTX560s overclock really well, are power efficient and the run MUCH quieter than the 6950. the GTX460 1GB is still a pretty strong card and they also scale well in SLI too, and they are cheaper at $179-199. also in the $200 range are the 6850 and 6870. they are still decent cards but could struggle a bit at high details with 1920x1080 resolution.

that XFX 650w will be plenty poweful for 2 of any of these cards in SLI/CFX.

and yea, its probably a good idea to update the list, or just put a quick list in your newest post like:

CPU: 2500k
mobo: Asus P8P67 Pro
mem: Gskill ripjaws X 2x2gb 1600mhz

and so on...
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post #10 of 23
Pick up a used card for sure.

I got an msi gtx 465 golden edition twin frozr II unlocked to a 470 already, for 200$ local pick up.
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