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Well first of all thank you for those kind enough to help a newbie here..
I'm not really new to computers but till now have just been "frankensteining" (im sure you all relate) older machines to get by.. So now that I've decided to spend a little money to build my own I have a few questions.. mainly if Im getting the most bang for my buck and not overspending in some areas while neglecting others...here is the configuration I'm considering, and I will be using the machine for HTPC and medium gaming (Fallout 3 and similar type games)

Motherboard: Biostar TA880GB+ AM3 880G HDMI MicroATX $75(newegg)

This board has onboard Radeon hd4250 graphics (not sure if I can get by with this alone)

Case: up in the air, but looking for a case in the $40-50 dollar range

Processor: (This is what I'm really unsure of) AMD 9850 Phenom X4 $75 (tigerdirect)

PowerSupply: Vidtek 600W $30 (3Btech)

RAM: 4GB Gskill Ripjaw series $50 (Newegg)

Cooler: Arctic Cooling $30 (Newegg)

arctic silver paste: $10

case fans $12

I'm not looking to buy a hd with the machine unless I find a smokin deal somewhere because I already have a couple.

Plus shipping right now Im at around $350 which isnt bad at all but Im very open to suggestions and any advice that any of you would have....I'm not sure if I really need that processor or not, but I dont want to have to upgrade in the near future either (processor anyway).

Thanks in advance for the help!!
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post #2 of 17
I would save until you can do better.
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am3 board will not take a am2/am2+ cpu
you will need a am3 cpu

am2/2+ do not have the ddr3 imc


are you near a microcenter?

212+ is $28
http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0315397

and some cpu/board combos
http://www.microcenter.com/specials/...ndlePROMO.html

or
A780L3G AM3 760G mATX Motherboard
and Athlon II X2 250 Dual Core Boxed Processor
for $58+tax
http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0346724
http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0351634
Edited by ffejrxx - 3/7/11 at 1:41pm
post #4 of 17
hd4250 will not be enough for gaming but it will be sufficient for an htpc.
That phenom x4 processor is a failure, you don't want that cpu... if you play fallout 3 get at least something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-903-_-Product

PowerSupply: Don't get generic psu's as they will fry all your components when something goes wrong... Get a corsair or antec or seasonic. This one is good enough for your need: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371023

if you play a lot of games, then get a decent graphics card for around 70 bucks otherwise stick with the onboard to save some bucks
    
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I agree with the previous post,phenom x4 is a failure,
better get a phenomII x2 for the same price.
U will surely need a gpu cuz that crappy onboard wont do the job.get a gts450 for $89 from newegg.u can pick a cheap but decent psu like corsair cx400/430
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Thanks for the advice so far!

I made a few changes in powersupply and processor as you can see here:http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/Sh...px?Submit=view(went with athlon X3 450) will there be a significant difference between that and the phenom II x4 840 for what Im using it for? any advantage to using the phenom II dual core over the athlon X3? And the consensus is that playing fallout with onboard is a definite no-go?

sorry for all the questions... Ive really tried to do my homework, but theres a lot of conflicting info out there

once again, THANK YOU
Edited by RustyCage - 3/7/11 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by RustyCage View Post
Thanks for the advice so far!

I made a few changes in powersupply and processor as you can see here:http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/Sh...px?Submit=view(went with athlon X3 450) will there be a significant difference between that and the phenom II x4 840 for what Im using it for? any advantage to using the phenom II dual core over the athlon X3? And the consensus is that playing fallout with onboard is a definite no-go?

sorry for all the questions... Ive really tried to do my homework, but theres a lot of conflicting info out there

once again, THANK YOU
advantage of phenomII x2 over athlonII x3 is if u can unlock 2cores on the phenom u get a quad core + it has L3 cache which the athlon doesnt.
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the phenom x4 800 series dont have the l3 cache, but have a little more l2
they are more like an athlon x4
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Thanks for the advice so far!

I made a few changes in powersupply and processor as you can see here:http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/Sh...px?Submit=view(went with athlon X3 450) will there be a significant difference between that and the phenom II x4 840 for what Im using it for? any advantage to using the phenom II dual core over the athlon X3? And the consensus is that playing fallout with onboard is a definite no-go?

sorry for all the questions... Ive really tried to do my homework, but theres a lot of conflicting info out there

once again, THANK YOU
I can't see anything in your cart... You should save it to your public newegg wishlist and post the URL here.

If you do video transcoding then you'll notice the difference between x4 and x2 but in less demanding games, it won't make much difference
    
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The ASrock MB says is supports AMD overdrive with ACC and AMD OC tuner... does this mean I would be able to overclock the phenom II and unlock two cores?
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