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post #11 of 23
Cooling really doesn't do anything for MSI boards. They often blow anyway.
The problem is the NIKOS MOSFETs being used on them; with high TDP processors they are very bad, and they are rated for only 25C operation. I said that right, 25C. Even with air/fan cooling they would probably run much hotter.

tehPwnzah's situation is different, DrMOS is a slight improvement (though often fails in same way), and if he is not unlocked on the x2 555 then the board is not pushing much TDP which is even safer
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you mean like me running mine in an old nzxt zero case ? 4 120mm fans with 1 of those blowing straight on the mosfets ?
Speed/voltage?
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post #13 of 23
You can try balancing the individual cores. What you do is run the chip as a single core active at a time applying overclocks to each core and record the speeds and what voltages are required for that speed. eg if you want to run 4ghz, run each core at 4ghz and see which of the cores sticks out that needs more voltage to operate then you know that one (maybe) your bad core, mind you it still works it just does not work in harmony with the other 3 or 2 as the case maybe.

Example:

Core 0: 4ghz 1.35v
Core 1: 4ghz 1.35v
Core 2: 4ghz 1.38v
Core 3: 4ghz 1.35v

All you do after is disable core 2. But really u should listen to XD although my board has not blown up yet even though it was running 1.6v for 3days maybe i just got a better board who knows, but better to be safe than sorry...ah hell this is OCN why be safe, run it till it blows
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post #14 of 23
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Thanks AMD-dude for actually addressing my question, lol.

It actually stabilized pretty easy, 1.32V on the CPU-NB and it's smooth sailing. I just had to find out what the stock voltage was in the first place lol, not the greatest board for showing current or stock settings.

In the boards defense, it is actually printed with "140W CPU READY".

And it won't blow, on account of me and my magix
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post #15 of 23
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ah hell this is OCN why be safe, run it till it blows
I know, I know, there's no such thing as overkill here

I would prefer to set a fine line of safety though - rather than having a board blow, waiting weeks for the RMA, being hit by extra costs after the wait gets too long and buying a new board... then hooking it up together and possibly finding your power supply dead too. Sh|t happens.
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I think you're doing a good job informing people who have just one system and no extra $$. It's just too bad they can't be informed BEFORE they buy a budget board for their lone OC project.
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Yea...no joke XD, what u do is great, its just a bit of a let down when u buy a board only after to find out that u can't overclock on it properly. But i have found a trend and that is that the msi boards mainly blow around 1.45v and above have u seen this trend also?
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post #18 of 23
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Thanks AMD-dude for actually addressing my question, lol.

It actually stabilized pretty easy, 1.32V on the CPU-NB and it's smooth sailing. I just had to find out what the stock voltage was in the first place lol, not the greatest board for showing current or stock settings.

In the boards defense, it is actually printed with "140W CPU READY".

And it won't blow, on account of me and my magix
Yea you can't blame people who see 140W CPU READY and they know they have a 80w or 125w chip...false advertising is the main culprit here i think, if brands were honest about what their boards can do this would happen less, and i am not saying that we overclockers void the warranty by doing what we do...there are examples of when boards just burst into flame with stock settings...i guess u just get a bad board once in a while as well.
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post #19 of 23
Well, I've tried and it's at least working somewhat. I've written articles concerning VRMs and they actually are being read, enough to influence many people already before purchasing. Most people sign up on OCN only after the rig has been built usually to get help on things such as instability, not build configuration...
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Yea exactly...the same goes for me....where were you before i built my rig if i had only known...oh well atleast now i know
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