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post #1 of 9
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just built my first computer ( cheap as I could with some performance) and I'm wondering what I need to upgrade most urgently
I5 651 @ aprox 4 gigahertz
Gigabyte h55m-d2h board
No graphics card ( yet)
2gig elchepo RAM
Cooler master elite case
Couple old hardrives
Couple old cd drives

I plan to get a 30$ heat sink for the CPU and another 2gig if ram

So should I get a graphics card and if so which one ( budget) or just more ram?
I'm mostly gaming and browsing
At the moment it can handle the games I want but only at mid settings
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post #2 of 9
well i would imagine the hdds are bottle necking if they are really old if they are reallatively new then you should be fine; for gpu i thinking this should be a close match for 100 bucks that shouldn't make a lot of bottlenecking

for your question depends really, i do a lot of video editing so hands down it would be ram but if i did mostly gaming gpu so for you most likely gpu

and you might want to also remember that with 4gigs of rams means you need a 64bit os
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post #3 of 9
well there are a couple options for ya...
based on your budget for video and or ram
if this is a complete budget build then get a graphics card onboard will not do specially if you want to get max settings out of it.....

what kind of games would you LIKE to play

plus invest in a better cpu cooler and get that ram your planing on getting

but what is your budget like for CPU COoler and Video Card ?

(just get the ram youll probally not use it all but just get it for incase like say fable 3 or something like that even crysis i ran on a9800GTX Beautiful worked out for me perfectly )
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Thanks for fast replies
The harddrives are about 3 year old
The CPU cooler I'm planning on getting is a cooler master hyper tx3
I play league of legend mine craft alot if steam based games and COD and anything new I fancy


My budget for a graphic card is around 120 $ aus dollars and CPU cooler is most cost effective and cheapest u can find

EDIT I have windows 64 bit and 32 bit
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post #5 of 9
ya do you play bad company 2 alot?
or say like neverwinter series or anything like that
i would recommend this vid card

this is the 5670 xfx card single slot
its smaller then the bigger ones of the 5770
i use the 5770 single slot and let me tell ya it is great and cool works like a charm but is just a lil more then this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150467


this is the 5770 i recomend
but your might want to go nvidia
like the 450 series
look around on new egg they have deals on vid cards now specially lower models that will play your games for uner a 100 bucks
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post #6 of 9
yes indeed i would agree with above 5770 or 450
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post #7 of 9
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Do they ship to australia?
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post #8 of 9
well newegg no directly but take a look at this site it explains how you can forward ship to autrailia
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post #9 of 9
Aww man aussie
well there should be comp shops there that have descent deals im sure of it
specially older parts
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