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Hey guys, I am new here at OCN. 2 days ago while playing online, someone mentioned getting a mechanical keyboard because he claims they last longer. I am a casual gamer and I also work in front of a computer 8+ hours a day, so I use the keyboard quite alot. I've been through many keyboards and they don't last as long. I think the batteries on my wireless keyboard lasted longer than the keys. So I researched about mechanical keyboards and I stumbled upon the thread "Mechanical Keyboard Guide" and read through it. After doing some more research, I've narrowed down my selections to either a Filco brand keyboard or a Ducky keyboard.

I prefer them both because they are compact and simple, but since I live in California, Filco is out of my list(I did find it on amazon, but they are currently unavailable at the moment link here [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-Tactile-Action-Keyboard/dp/B002P8RN00/ref=pd_rhf_shvl_3"]Amazon.com: Filco Majestouch, NKR, Tactile Action, USA Keyboard: Electronics[/ame] ). So, I am left with the Ducky keyboards which I actually prefer than Filco since it:
1. has Fn keys.
2. has shortcuts for calc and etc.
3. has a slim and compact body like Filco.
4. is a full keyboard.
5. has the layout which I'm used to.

Now the question is, since this will be my first mechanical keyboard I don't know how the Cherry MX Brown version feels like compare to the MX Blue. I have checked out some of the sound test on youtube and I do prefer the MX Brown version to the high pitched clicks of the MX Blue. If anybody here owns or have tried both the Ducky MX Brown and Ducky MX Blue, I would appreciate it if you give your opinion here even if you only own or tried one of them I would still appreciate your comment on the product.

I also found 2 websites that sells or advertise Ducky keyboards. Here's the 1st link http://www.tankguys.com/site-merchandise.html and the 2nd link http://duckychannel.com.tw/en/index.html . I know the first one is associated with OCN, but are they selling the same product? Tankguys doesn't seem to have the DK 9008-G2 or do they? I would appreciate it if a vendor representative of Tankguys would comment here. And if Tankguys.com do offer the DK 9008-G2 then I would like a price quote.

Sorry for the essay form thread and I thank anyone in advance for your comments/opinions/suggestions.
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The Cherry MX Blues actually don't have as high-pitched of a sound as many YouTube videos portray. Instead, it's a very pleasing and satisfying sound in person. I mean after all, it's a mechanical click (it's nowhere near being ear-piercing).

The feel of the Blues is similar to rubber domes, but dramatically superior in every way imaginable. I mean, it's tactile like rubber domes but mechanical switches are spring-loaded which makes an enormous difference. I am a drummer, so I like to use this analogy: it's like the difference between trying to bounce a stick off a pillow (rubber dome keyboards) and trying to bounce a stick off one of those nice bouncy gum rubber practice pads. I can play on both surfaces, but playing on a nice gum rubber practice pad is basically effortless while playing on a pillow is comparatively a real workout.

The Browns are even easier to press down because it has a spring that is easier to compress. They're also slightly less tactile than the Blues. The Browns are still great for typing, but they do provide a little less tactile feedback. I mean the Cherry MX Blues feel crisp and precise in comparison to the Browns which lean more towards being kinda smooth with still some tactile feedback. This isn't to say that the Cherry MX Blues aren't smooth, but it's that they have a more defined feeling than the Browns (which I enjoy very much while typing).

But regardless of which switch you choose, the superior feeling will definitely make you want to type. Plus, you get the added benefit of a superior, high-quality keyboard that should outlast almost everything in your computer system.
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For a quick and easy comparison of the MX-Browns vs the MX-blues

When the switch actuates on a MX-Brown it feels like a clasp slidding into place. When the switch actuates on the MX-Blue it feels like a sharp snap is happening.

Personally, I like Browns over Blues. They are also considered the "beginners" switch for most people.

They are quieter than blues and allow for faster double tapping. Though many folks consider the blues better for typing.

So it really depends on your needs.

TankGuys does not sell the DK9008-G2 though we (Overclock.net) are looking into that for a future board. Along with other things as well.

The DK9008-G2 is available on Ebay for $160 (MX-Brown) or $160 (MX-Blue.)

I can answer any questions you may have, so feel free to throw them my way.

For reference though, the OCN Special Edition of the DK-98008 is not that much different from the DK-9008-G2. They both use the same keycaps except the OCN Edition has a white infill instead of being black.
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Thanks for the reply guys was just reading Overclock.net Launches our branded line of Ducky Keyboards till I fall asleep.

@Twocables

Yeah I just wish I could find these at a local electronic store, so I could have a feel of what both versions are like. I've watched plenty youtube sound test videos between Browns and Blues and the high pitch are the same in all videos. Even though I turned my volume down the pitch was still there.

@Tator Tot

I was really leaning towards the Brown because its a balance between the Black's linear switch and the Blue's tactile + clicky switch. I read alot of complaints about the Blue clickyness, and I read alot of love jokes about the Brown's.

Oh and yeah I do realize now that the DK9008G-2 might not be suitable for me since I do not know all the keys and I'd hate to play the guessing game when I'm typing.

The PBT version of the DK9008 priced at $140+sh is a bit tempting, but does the ABS version priced at $110+sh really shines faster? Is the PBT worth getting? Well I guess I should treat myself once in awhile and since it's my first mechanical keyboard I might as well go all out, right? lol

Oh btw I did find the 9008-G2 for $159.99+sh= $172 on ebay thanks for the pricing, however, I found a cheaper DK9008-G2 at $139.99+freeShipping with a wrong title. The seller explained in the description that it is the Dk9008G-2 black keys, but now I prefer the white infill that you mentioned before.

Question:what's the life cycle of the DK 9008-BEPLB and the DK 9008-BELLB becaus Tankguys.com doesn't have a full detailed description of the product. Is it 50m clicks? 20m? or 10? I wonder how long that will last.
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wait a brown is no way betweeen a black and a blue?

its just a blue without sound...
a black is a high force switch which the browns which i am typing on are low force and blue mid force

considering only those 3 switches as
brown 45N
blue 50cN
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MX-Browns are 20Mil, MX-Blues are 20Mil, MX-Blacks are 50Mil (to memory.)

Though generally they'll last longer than that.

PBT Caps generally last about twice as long for me (though that's 2 months vs 1 month before some shine shows up.)
I use my keyboard a lot so it's nicer to have the better caps. It's really noticeable on the space bar actually.

I'd say if you have the cash, the Special Edition is a great value. That wrist wrest generally sells for $70 from Elitekeyboards, and it's got some nice PBT keycaps as well.
Though our intention with releasing the boards was to get good quality mech's with lots of features available to the public easily.
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Originally Posted by Tator Tot;12652954 
For a quick and easy comparison of the MX-Browns vs the MX-blues

When the switch actuates on a MX-Brown it feels like a clasp slidding into place. When the switch actuates on the MX-Blue it feels like a sharp snap is happening.

Personally, I like Browns over Blues. They are also considered the "beginners" switch for most people.

They are quieter than blues and allow for faster double tapping. Though many folks consider the blues better for typing.

So it really depends on your needs.

Should I try to buy both Brown and Blue and later return one of them once I decide which one I prefer? TwoCables makes the Blue version sound better, so I'm torn between the two. Hopefully the return policy of Tankguys.com will let me do that if I ever decide to buy both and then return one.
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Originally Posted by Tator Tot;12653181 
MX-Browns are 20Mil, MX-Blues are 20Mil, MX-Blacks are 50Mil (to memory.)

.....................
Though our intention with releasing the boards was to get good quality mech's with lots of features available to the public easily.

Yeah that's what I like about the Ducky keyboards. But yeah 20Mil clicks, what if I go pass that number? Will I feel a noticeable change with my keys?
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Originally Posted by GianCCD;12653049 
Thanks for the reply guys was just reading Overclock.net Launches our branded line of Ducky Keyboards till I fall asleep.

@Twocables

Yeah I just wish I could find these at a local electronic store, so I could have a feel of what both versions are like. I've watched plenty youtube sound test videos between Browns and Blues and the high pitch are the same in all videos. Even though I turned my volume down the pitch was still there.
Yeah, I have to admit that I was slightly disappointed when I got my Filco Majestouch Tactile Click because a part of me wanted that higher pitched sound. But in reality, it's just a click. It's kinda like the click that a retractable pen makes, only a retractable pen is louder.
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@Tator Tot

I was really leaning towards the Brown because its a balance between the Black's linear switch and the Blue's tactile + clicky switch. I read alot of complaints about the Blue clickyness, and I read alot of love jokes about the Brown's.
I see more negative comments about the Blues coming from people who've never heard them in person. I mean, I can't remember the last time I saw someone say that they regret their purchase because of the clicks that the Cherry MX Blues make.

But I need to say this: if I had to be as quiet as possible because I had someone trying to sleep in the same room as I, or perhaps someone trying to study near me (like 10 feet away), then I probably would have gone with the Tactile Touch because it's the one with the Browns. Or I might have tried to find a good scissor switch board since I bottom out occasionally.
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Originally Posted by runeazn;12653175 
wait a brown is no way betweeen a black and a blue?

its just a blue without sound...
a black is a high force switch which the browns which i am typing on are low force and blue mid force

considering only those 3 switches as
brown 45N
blue 50cN
and black 60cN
Additionally, the Blacks are linear (non-tactile, non-clicky) while the Blues and Browns are both tactile. The Blues are clicky too.
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Originally Posted by GianCCD;12653236 
Yeah that's what I like about the Ducky keyboards. But yeah 20Mil clicks, what if I go pass that number? Will I feel a noticeable change with my keys?
It could take over 10-15 years to begin approaching that number. wink.gif
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I have no frame of reference because I have not used a different switch but the blues are very nice to type on. I think the 20 million is the mean time between failures; about 50% will fail before and 50% will fail after.
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Intel i7 3930K C2 4.8GHz ASUS Rampage IV Extreme NVidia GTX480 SLI NVidia GTX480 SLI 
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G. Skill Ripjaws-X 32GB Crucial M4 128 OCZ Vertex 2 Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 
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Western Digital Caviar Green Seagate Barracuda Green Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 SP1 Professional x64 
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CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Coolermaster HAF-X Steelseries Xai Razer Goliathus ASUS Xonar STX 
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Intel i7 3930K C2 4.8GHz ASUS Rampage IV Extreme NVidia GTX480 SLI NVidia GTX480 SLI 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G. Skill Ripjaws-X 32GB Crucial M4 128 OCZ Vertex 2 Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar Green Seagate Barracuda Green Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 SP1 Professional x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Dell U2711 Dell U2211H Topre Realforce 86UB Thermaltake Toughpower XT 875W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Coolermaster HAF-X Steelseries Xai Razer Goliathus ASUS Xonar STX 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i7 2.3Ghz GT 650m 8GB 256GB Samsung SSD 
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