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just checking out prices, i can get the lian li for a few bucks cheaper then 650d, anyone have experience with the pc-a70f and air cooling? any opinions welcome, i do realize one is full tower vs medium. main thing im looking for is good airflow for dual gpu which are stacked very close together only a few cm gap.
Edited by polynomialc - 3/8/11 at 11:51am
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post #2 of 11
The A70F is fine for air cooling, I recommend using some Zip-Ties and putting 120mm fans on the other side of the HDD rack to improve airflow.

Though there are some better cases for air cooling.
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tough decisions, i could get a ft02 for 240.00, or a raven rv02-e 200.00 but i have no experience with silverstone products, ive heard of their fans breaking after a couple days of use.
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post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by polynomialc View Post
tough decisions, i could get a ft02 for 240.00, or a raven rv02-e 200.00 but i have no experience with silverstone products, ive heard of their fans breaking after a couple days of use.
Both cases use the FN/AP121 & FN/AP181 fans that are actually pretty good.

Silverstone as a whole makes well built cases but I wouldn't get either of them. The cooling isn't all that great for the price. And they do not have a lot of room to route cables.
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post #5 of 11
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what case would you pick over silverstone? dust is also an issue since I live near an airport. being able to take out some dust screens and easily clean is very important, main reason for not considering the phantom.
Edited by polynomialc - 3/8/11 at 1:10pm
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post #6 of 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by polynomialc View Post
what case would you pick over silverstone? dust is also an issue since I live near an airport. being able to take out some dust screens and easily clean is very important, main reason for not considering the phantom.
Cooler Master HAF-X would be my choice, it's priced around those cases, has easy to remove side & front dust filters; and it's an overall solid case.
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post #7 of 11
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not a huge fan of the haf-x 'hummer style' design. although ive heard the cooling on it is great.
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post #8 of 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by polynomialc View Post
not a huge fan of the haf-x 'hummer style' design. although ive heard the cooling on it is great.
I'm not either, but the cooling is great.
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post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 
I picked up a silverstone ft02 , just finished installing everything.. seems massive compared to my old p180.
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post #10 of 11
Good choice. Cooling on the 90 degree rotated mobos are excellent.
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