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It's funny seeing all those 580 owners attack a small 40X40 avatar of my wife, making more money with professionnal work in a couple of shooting then they can dream of doing in 1 year... But it's ok for me.

But hey, when you are out of intelligent things to say, and know that the other one is right, then you use personnal attack. The usual internet trick for those without anything useful to answer.

I can understand the anger, rage and frustration, when your 3 months old 1000$ 580 SLI set-up is spank badly by 3 GPUs from AMD for the same price...

So if it's helping you keeping your sanity and keep your e-peen rockin by commenting a small 40X40 avatar, then be my guest.

But before the ban hammer come knocking, you should stop those stupid 12-years-old-living-in -parents-basement remarks. Just saying.
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Let me be a bit nicer. what i meant to say is: We didnt ask who she is, what she does or what she gets paid... we were just going off of an image that was eh... questionable. it had nothing to do with the topic on hand and for that i apologize. but for the record if you like we can start something in the offtopic section were we can go back and forth until your little fingers fall off from exhaustion. dont take it personal... its the interwebs after all.

ps. dont assume the rest of the world lives in their parents basement making allowances. lol silly noob.

Back ontopic:

These 6990s and 590s,580s are all enthusiast cards. im pretty sure that people who purchase them dont care (for the most part) if they spend 700,1000, 1500 whatever the price may be. technology gets old quick and if you keep waiting until the latest and greatest you will never get one. like i said before different strokes for different folks... hey guess what? if i need more power i will buy another 580! and if i need more ill buy 1 more. its not that big of a deal honestly.
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Dude. nVidia might have a slightly better driver interface, but is that really worth throwing out all that money and getting a worse card. sure an SLI of 580's will out perform 1 6990 but not by much. what does that say about AMD and nVidia. means that nVidia can't make that good of a card(in comparrison to a 6990. Obviously the 580 is an excellent card but in retrospect...) Go with AMD, its a better card, newer, and just go on www.gpureview.com. do the comparrison your self.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....=646&card2=637

Well, its your rig, do what you want but AMD clearly has the better product. And also you have to think about cooling an SLI config. with 2 high performance gpu's, you will have heating issues, so you will need cooling, most likely liquid. little known fact about the 580's, under load(IE running benchmarks, playing a high res & Frames Per Second game), you will generate massive amounts of heat. The 480's had the same problem. to be honest, just go with one better card rather than 2 not as good cards. you can always expand to the other 6990 when you have the funds and its not like your gonna get bad frame rates, this is the fastest GPU in the world
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Dude. nVidia might have a slightly better driver interface, but is that really worth throwing out all that money and getting a worse card. sure an SLI of 580's will out perform 1 6990 but not by much. what does that say about AMD and nVidia. means that nVidia can't make that good of a card(in comparrison to a 6990. Obviously the 580 is an excellent card but in retrospect...) Go with AMD, its a better card, newer, and just go on www.gpureview.com. do the comparrison your self.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....=646&card2=637

Well, its your rig, do what you want but AMD clearly has the better product. And also you have to think about cooling an SLI config. with 2 high performance gpu's, you will have heating issues, so you will need cooling, most likely liquid. little known fact about the 580's, under load(IE running benchmarks, playing a high res & Frames Per Second game), you will generate massive amounts of heat. The 480's had the same problem. to be honest, just go with one better card rather than 2 not as good cards. you can always expand to the other 6990 when you have the funds and its not like your gonna get bad frame rates, this is the fastest GPU in the world
Why Buy a 6990 when you already have 2 580s or even have one 580, just buy a second. and anyway i was going liquid cooling regardless of what video card i was getting. and you can tell your a amd fanboy , and ya the amd is only going to be the fastest card for another 10days so they can enjoy the little bit of fame they have till the gtx 590 is realeased. and you think sli 580s are hot lmao, try two 6990 in xfire
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Why Buy a 6990 when you already have 2 580s or even have one 580, just buy a second. and anyway i was going liquid cooling regardless of what video card i was getting. and you can tell your a amd fanboy , and ya the amd is only going to be the fastest card for another 10days so they can enjoy the little bit of fame they have till the gtx 590 is realeased. and you think sli 580s are hot lmao, try two 6990 in xfire
This - x 2

If someone has yet to upgrade then any option up is better than what they have. A dual GPU dosen't mean it will run cooler per say either. Certain set ups a dual gpu is a better choice, depending on psu, space, PCIe slots, etc. In others single cards in SLI or Crossfire will get you more power, price aside, than dual's. Four single AMD 6970 or four GTX 580's will beat out two AMD 6990 or GTX 590's.

Each person has their own reasons which route will work better for them. Whether it be financial or being frugal, wanting raw performance over price, makes our decision different for each of us.

In my case I've already purchased a GTX 580, my scenario will be to just add a second for performance over one dual GPU regardless if it's from AMD or Nvidia. I'm waiting on the GTX 590 to see my options at that point since EVGA has a step up program within 90 days of purchase I might take advantage of and my mother board only has two PCIe slots I can use. I'm leaning toward two GTX 580's even over the dual GPU card myself it looks like. If I wanted to fill both slots with dual GPU's I'd need more than 1killo watt of power anyway. Insane.
     
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Money wise go with 6990+6970 tri-fire to outperform sli gtx580's at almost same costs.

Performance wise wait for gtx590 and if your wallet allows throw in a gtx580 later for tri sli
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Thought these videos would be fun to watch and share for what it's worth.

Resolution 1900X1200 Results EVGA GTX 580 SC SLI =70 FPS vs AMD 6990 Extreme BIOS Enabled =59 FPS

Resolution 2560X1600 - Results EVGA GTX 580 SC SLI =78.3 FPS vs AMD 6990 Extreme BIOS enabled =70 FPS

Resolution 1900X1200 Results EVGA GTX 580 SC SLI =58.6 7FPS vs AMD 6990 Extreme BIOS Enabled =53.67 FPS

Resolution 1920X1200 Results EVGA GTX 580 SC =65.2 FPS vs AMD 6990 Extreme BIOS Enabled =44 FPS

AMD 6990 definetly has a lower total system energy load. GTX 580 SC more raw performance. Even at higher resolution.

AMD 6990 $709-749 vs GTX 580 $998-$1038. To each his own, both are great cards. Two camps, one that argue price per performance and the other that just wants performance.

Thanks to Trubritar on YouTube for these results and video comparison.
     
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Tributar, be a man. Why not post some video at 2560X1600 of 1000$ against 1000$ with max AA and max AF? 2 cards against 2 cards? 6990+6970 Tri-Fire against 580 SLI. Why 1000$ against 700$? Go 1000$ against 1000$. Even ground.

So now we can compare a 200$ card with a 600$ and say look, the 600$ card is better? Huh. Yes, it's normal. 700$ against 1000$ is the same. So do 1000$ against 1000$. 2 cards against 2 cards, 2 PCIe slots against 2 PCIe slots.

Nvidia fanboys are afraid to post that because the Tri-Fire set-up, costing the same amount of $, will rape the 580 SLI set-up. Plain and simple. And with more VRAM.

Let's ask Tributar to do the real and fair comparison. And with 11.4 preview drivers please, the first drivers supporting the 6990. Not 11.1 or 11.2.

Even ground. Not video or benchmarks made with green-glasses.
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Let me be a bit nicer. what i meant to say is: We didnt ask who she is, what she does or what she gets paid... we were just going off of an image that was eh... questionable. it had nothing to do with the topic on hand and for that i apologize.
OK. I overeacted. But it's my wife, so it's a little bit frustrating when someone says she looks like a man when in reality, all the man are drooling when she's around. A little 40X40 avatar don't do her justice. You should see her portfolio. Sorry for the ''overeaction''. But imagine if I was saying the same thing about your girlfriend.

So I changed my avatar for my baby-girl that was too tired to noticed all the toys stuck on her wet hair. We had a good laugh. Don't tell me she looks like a man!

Back on the subject now.
    
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Tributar, be a man. Why not post some video at 2560X1600 of 1000$ against 1000$ with max AA and max AF? 2 cards against 2 cards? 6990+6970 Tri-Fire against 580 SLI. Why 1000$ against 700$? Go 1000$ against 1000$. Even ground.

So now we can compare a 200$ card with a 600$ and say look, the 600$ card is better? Huh. Yes, it's normal. 700$ against 1000$ is the same. So do 1000$ against 1000$. 2 cards against 2 cards, 2 PCIe slots against 2 PCIe slots.

Nvidia fanboys are afraid to post that because the Tri-Fire set-up, costing the same amount of $, will rape the 580 SLI set-up. Plain and simple. And with more VRAM.

Let's ask Tributar to do the real and fair comparison. And with 11.4 preview drivers please, the first drivers supporting the 6990. Not 11.1 or 11.2.

Even ground. Not video or benchmarks made with green-glasses.
If anyone hasn't noticed the post is AMD 6990 dual gpu vs two GTX 580 SLI so any comparison is on topic. Two cards in one compared to two single cards. If you don't like it don't post to this thread....duh. The difference $250 for more power is what those interested must decide on. (Also it's not about anyones wives).

Again two camps, those that will argue price per performance and those that will pay $250 for more performance. Some don't have three PCIe slots or the PSU or money to run two AMD 6990's. So the OP question is very valid, not to everyone but those in this situation. Some of us are going to make the choice whether the price difference is worth it or not for their individual needs.

Also if your butt hurt please start a thread "Two AMD 6990's vs three GTX 580's" and post those benchmarks to your hearts content. PUHLEEZ stay on the OP.
     
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Relax green-boy.

Read the first post. He wants 2X 580 in SLI (1000$) or 6990, so it's ok for him to use 2 cards in 2 PCIe slots, and/or to spend 1000$. And he probably don't know you can Tri-Fire a 6990+6970, since you CAN'T do that with Nvidia. So I'm just helping him, since the green-team is really careful to never talk about that fact, and won't tell him that dirty little secret about Nvidia.

Don't start the 2 GPU against 3 bul*****. It's just an argument for Nvidia fanboys to save their as*, because you can't do like AMD and go Tri with 2 cards.

1000$ against 1000$. 2 cards against 2 cards. I know it hurts your green-skin, but Tri-Fire is better then 580 SLI. 2 PCie slots.

So if the OP wants to use 2 cards, 2 X 580, spend 1000$, why can't he use 6990+6970? 2 cards against 2 cards, 1000$ against 1000$.

Remove your green-glasses for once, and try to help the guy.
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