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Yeah, it was a good deal, but just mildly upsetting as I don't really game that much, and was looking for a lower TDP you know? I sold the i7 930, and "upgraded" to a 950. lol That wasn't the plan mind you, as I was planning on buying Sandy Bridge... oh well, it is still brutally fast and does everything I want/need in a timely manner, so no worries

And yeah, I'm not worried about the guy, just amused.
Well I'd be slightly disappointed too if that was the case. I bet you notice a HUGE difference between the 950 & 930 LOL. They're essentially the same chip, just different stock clocks. My buddy and I compared them at 4.2 and got the same scores pretty much.

Some people are very amusing and have to be "right" and will do what ever they can to prove their point, even if there's overwhelming evidence in front of them. No one is telling the OP to go the X58 route, so his comparison is irrelevant. LOL

But when you look at his sig rig, I guess I can understand why he needs to be right in this particular situation.

Anyhow, hopefully we helped the OP.
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Take your grouchy pants off there

I can tell you have done no searching on your own, so I'll make it easy for you.

1) Sandy Bridge CPU's are hands down faster in EVERY way.
2) They're competitively priced.
3) Motherboards are priced ridiculously low - $120-$150 for a GOOD overclocking board.
4) They're uber sexy and give you a very large e-peen, and in some cases, a very large REAL-peen.


Now, go do everyone a favor here and do some SEARCHING ON YOUR OWN!!! I will go ahead and tell you that everything I have said is true, including #4.

Thanks and come again!
Again you gave me no evidence supporting your claims and unless you make Intel CPU's working at Intel, and I bet you don't, then I cannot believe that they are "faster in EVERY way". Second, yes I do searching all the time because I like to stay on top of current news and technology and I could not find really any useful benchmarks of what I was asking. Secondly, those motherboards if you just go to Newegg.com and look in your price range are pretty cheap and do not look like they are that great of motherboards, and they do not get the best reviews. Why would you want to be a mediocre motherboard like you say for such a good processor. You are hindering its capabilities. You def can't over clock that thing past 5 Ghz with those motherboards in the price range you suggest or the chip sets will probably overheat providing by looking at those motherboards the heat sinks on those chip sets are very small. And again I do search artard.
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I will address your motherboard issue 1st. You can easily grab a GOOD p67 motherboard for $150.

The 2500K is being compared to the 1090T because they are in the same price range, and this is AMD's top of the line RIGHT NOW. For new builds, it doesn't make sense to go AMD, heck it doesn't even make sense to build an X58 system either right now. Notice the keywords "right now", since BD isn't out, there's nothing else to compare it to.

The 2500K & 2600K are overclocking beasts that can easily do 4.5+ on AIR. Show me a 1090T that can do 4.5 on AIR. So, when you look up all these benchmarks keep in mind their overclocking potential as well.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...ridge-review/8

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i...600k-review/16

And if you're still not convinced, pick any of these reviews and look them up yourself.

AnandTech - http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/t...i3-2100-tested

Bit-Tech - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...ridge-review/1

EndGadget - http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/03/i...nced-includes/

Guru 3D - http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i...-2600k-review/

Hardware Canucks - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...rs-review.html

Hardware Heaven - http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html

KitGuru - http://www.kitguru.net/components/cp...-2500k-review/

Legit Reviews - http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1501/1/

Maximum PC ( Great Article ) - http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea..._washes_ashore

NeoSeeker - http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...600K_i5_2500K/

Overclock 3D - http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/c...ridge_review/1

Overclockers.com - http://www.overclockers.com/intel-i7...?utm_source=pr

PC Magazine - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374890,00.asp

PC Perspective - http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=1057

The Tech Report - http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188

Tech Spot - http://www.techspot.com/review/353-i...-corei7-2600k/

Tech Powerup - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/I..._i5_2500K_GPU/

Tom's Hardware - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...500k,2833.html

Tweak Town - http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/375...pus/index.html

If after looking up all these reviews and facts about the 2500K, and you still recommend your friend an AMD system, than you're obviously doing a disservice to your friend.
Again, the core i5 2500K doesn't blow away the 1100T my buddy is getting. Yes it is slightly faster in just about everything but it doesn't blow it away and I am not doing a "disservice" as you say. I recommended my friend get the 2500K or the 1100T and he knew the 2500K was a little quicker than the 1100T in almost everything. And he chose the 1090T because with that setup he was able to save roughly 150 bucks and he got a nice corsair liquid cooling unit and also a beefier GPU. He can now over clock the 1090T to at least 4 Ghz and it will be as quick as a stock 2500K. And before anyone says anything, yes I know the 2500K is able to over clock to duh, but he saved money and got a better gpu and a liquid cooling unit. Sometimes money makes a difference. And a user probably wouldn't notice the difference in speed from the 2500K vs a 1090T/1100T. The 2500K is not that much faster to make a noticeable difference. Now the 2600K would make a noticeable difference.

One more thing I forgot to mention is that all of the 1155 boards that my buddy liked and wanted to buy in his price range are all sold out, and he needed to buy all of his components over this weekend. So there are other reasons than the obvious everyone thinks to buy AMD.

AND he possibly could upgrade his setup in the very near future with an AMD Zambezi CPU when they are released in June with just a simple Bios Upgrade. Even though AMD stated that a new socket will be needed for Zambezi to be compatible might not be 100 percent correct. Asus is claiming that their Crosshair IV Formula and Extreme will be Zambezi compatible via just a BIOS update. They already have the new AM3+ BIOS on their site and you can download it even. This sort of makes sense since the AM3 socket has 941 pin contacts and the AM3 CPU's only have 938 pins. So Zambezi could fit in an AM3 socket if it had 941 or fewer pins. But ASUS already has a BIOS update for their two most popular AM3 socket motherboards already, I believe that this is possible.

Oh I also forgot this, 1090T @ 4.5Ghz on Air as you requested. If you just search you can find a ton of 1090T's 4.5+ Ghz on air. Again though your boasting about how the 2500K can overclock more than a year old tech. I would not boast like that haha. You want to know why. 1090T is old. I would most certainly hope that it would be better than the 1090T in overclocking. It is brand new technology. I am not saying it's not fair to compare the two CPU's because it is 100% rightfully fair to compare the two. All I am saying is one chip is a year old and the other chip is brand new so the 2500K better over clock more than previous Intel CPU's. Same thing goes for AMD, newer processors over clock better than its predecessors and the same will be for Zambezi.

One thing I think is funny is how I don't see anyone in this thread mentioning anything about Intel screwing up the Southbridge chipset and all the motherboard manufactures made faulty motherboards. No one said one thing at all about that. Gee I wonder Why dot dot dot

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Thanks guys, I just wanted to see these for the same reason you guys wanted to see some benchies. I seriously tried searching for these and I wasn't getting any hits.
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Again, the core i5 2500K doesn't blow away the 1100T my buddy is getting. Yes it is slightly faster in just about everything but it doesn't blow it away and I am not doing a "disservice" as you say. I recommended my friend get the 2500K or the 1100T and he knew the 2500K was a little quicker than the 1100T in almost everything. And he chose the 1090T because with that setup he was able to save roughly 150 bucks and he got a nice corsair liquid cooling unit and also a beefier GPU. He can now over clock the 1090T to at least 4 Ghz and it will be as quick as a stock 2500K. And before anyone says anything, yes I know the 2500K is able to over clock to duh, but he saved money and got a better gpu and a liquid cooling unit. Sometimes money makes a difference. And a user probably wouldn't notice the difference in speed from the 2500K vs a 1090T/1100T. The 2500K is not that much faster to make a noticeable difference. Now the 2600K would make a noticeable difference.
wait wait, how much did he spend on his rig? what mobo did he end up going with for his 1090t?


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Thanks guys, I just wanted to see these for the same reason you guys wanted to see some benchies. I seriously tried searching for these and I wasn't getting any hits.
but I thought you do a ton of searching? I found those benchmarks just by typing in i5 2500k benchmarks...how hard was that?
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wait wait, how much did he spend on his rig? what mobo did he end up going with for his 1090t?




but I thought you do a ton of searching? I found those benchmarks just by typing in i5 2500k benchmarks...how hard was that?
This motherboard here for 100 bucks. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131668And like I said before I don't know why you have to be nasty like all the other intel people on here. You guys are all nasty. your only friend in life must be your intel cpu. I did search that before and like I already stated I returned no hits. I don't know why but no bechies were coming up then.

Your motherboard is 50 bucks more than the one I just posted and they are basically the same except for the obvious-form factor(your is smaller means less material and is still more money) and chipset. AND the AMD mobo even has an integrated 4250 radeon gpu all for only 100 bucks.
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Again, the core i5 2500K doesn't blow away the 1100T my buddy is getting. Yes it is slightly faster in just about everything but it doesn't blow it away and I am not doing a "disservice" as you say. I recommended my friend get the 2500K or the 1100T and he knew the 2500K was a little quicker than the 1100T in almost everything. And he chose the 1090T because with that setup he was able to save roughly 150 bucks and he got a nice corsair liquid cooling unit and also a beefier GPU. He can now over clock the 1090T to at least 4 Ghz and it will be as quick as a stock 2500K. And before anyone says anything, yes I know the 2500K is able to over clock to duh, but he saved money and got a better gpu and a liquid cooling unit. Sometimes money makes a difference. And a user probably wouldn't notice the difference in speed from the 2500K vs a 1090T/1100T. The 2500K is not that much faster to make a noticeable difference. Now the 2600K would make a noticeable difference.

One more thing I forgot to mention is that all of the 1155 boards that my buddy liked and wanted to buy in his price range are all sold out, and he needed to buy all of his components over this weekend. So there are other reasons than the obvious everyone thinks to buy AMD.

AND he possibly could upgrade his setup in the very near future with an AMD Zambezi CPU when they are released in June with just a simple Bios Upgrade. Even though AMD stated that a new socket will be needed for Zambezi to be compatible might not be 100 percent correct. Asus is claiming that their Crosshair IV Formula and Extreme will be Zambezi compatible via just a BIOS update. They already have the new AM3+ BIOS on their site and you can download it even. This sort of makes sense since the AM3 socket has 941 pin contacts and the AM3 CPU's only have 938 pins. So Zambezi could fit in an AM3 socket if it had 941 or fewer pins. But ASUS already has a BIOS update for their two most popular AM3 socket motherboards already, I believe that this is possible.

Oh I also forgot this, 1090T @ 4.5Ghz on Air as you requested.
I'm sorry, but I have rarely seen a person as close minded as you. It seems you had already made your mind even before posting the thread. The i5 2500k blows the 1100T away, especially in gaming where 2 cores of the 1100T are barely used (and that's coming from a person who also has a 6 core CPU) equaling it to a PII X4. In most games, you get at least a 15% improvement and in CPU intensive ones, you get up to a 80% improvement. That is significantly better. If that isn't, I don't know what is.

Also, Sandy Bridge processors can comfortably do 4.8Ghz for 24/7, and some chips under water can do 5.2Ghz for 24/7 use. No PII could ever dream of achieve those clocks for 24/7 use (neither could Nehalem, just saying). So not only is Sandy Bridge significantly better clock for clock, it is also able to clock at least 25% more.

1155 motherboards are in the same price range as AM3 motherboards, and so are the RAMs. You could find many ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI and AsRock motherboards on NCIX/Tigerdirect and similar sites. Only Newegg is nearly completely sold out.

You did your friend a great disservice. i5 2500k was the clear way to go.

Also, I would trust what AMD says over what ASUS says regarding AMD chips. And bear in mind, the socket 1155 has many more expected CPU releases, that in no way puts AM3+ in a special position. Maybe your friend can switch to a Zamebzi CPU in June, but he would have definitely been able to also upgrade his i5 2500k in November.
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I'm sorry, but I have rarely seen a person as close minded as you. It seems you had already made your mind even before posting the thread. The i5 2500k blows the 1100T away, especially in gaming where 2 cores of the 1100T are barely used (and that's coming from a person who also has a 6 core CPU) equaling it to a PII X4. In most games, you get at least a 15% improvement and in CPU intensive ones, you get up to a 80% improvement. That is significantly better. If that isn't, I don't know what is.

Also, Sandy Bridge processors can comfortably do 4.8Ghz for 24/7, and some chips under water can do 5.2Ghz for 24/7 use. No PII could ever dream of achieve those clocks for 24/7 use (neither could Nehalem, just saying). So not only is Sandy Bridge significantly better clock for clock, it is also able to clock at least 25% more.

1155 motherboards are in the same range as AMD motherboards for the 1100t, and so are the RAMs. You could find many ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI and AsRock motherboards on NCIX and similar sites. Only Newegg is nearly completely sold out.

You did your friend a great disservice. i5 2500k was the clear way to go.

Also, I would trust what AMD says over what ASUS says regarding AMD chips. And bear in mind, the socket 1155 has many more expected CPU releases, that in no way puts AM3+ in a special position. Maybe your friend can switch to a Zamebzi CPU in June, but he would have definitely been able to also upgrade his i5 2500k in November.
Your kidding right, the 1090T gets same frame rates in games as the core i7 930,950, and so on bud so they are the same then too as a pentium as you say. And no I didnt make my mind before posting this lol, dont you read. it is my friends decision and he is tech savy and can figure this out for him self as he does have a mind of his own as they say.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-12.html wow look at how close the 1100t is to the 980X in game frame rates, wait a minute, the 1100t even beats the 980X sometime. Wow everyone already knew this except for you intel fanboys who can't bare to see things like that. Why do you have to be such a fanboy. I was going to buy a 2600K but I don't think I will now because I don't want to look like you people. I may just wait and see what the fuss is over bulldozer. nah i am just kidding I will still buy the 2600K, i am not going to let one, or in this case 20, rotten eggs spoil my taste.

Again the 2500K does not blow away the 1100T lol from looking at the benchmark results. Yes it wins and yes it slightly faster. Not blown away jack ace. Blow away would be the 2600K.
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Oh I also forgot this, 1090T @ 4.5Ghz on Air as you requested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAj4Ntx4OocIf you just search you can find a ton of 1090T's 4.5+ Ghz on air. Again though your boasting about how the 2500K can overclock more than a year old tech. I would not boast like that haha. You want to know why. 1090T is old. I would most certainly hope that it would be better than the 1090T in overclocking. It is brand new technology. I am not saying it's not fair to compare the two CPU's because it is 100% rightfully fair to compare the two. All I am saying is one chip is a year old and the other chip is brand new so the 2500K better over clock more than previous Intel CPU's. Same thing goes for AMD, newer processors over clock better than its predecessors and the same will be for Zambezi.

you're going to post a video of someone booting into 4.5ghz only to run superpi. I'd like to see a stress video of either linx with all memory or prime blend test on that 4.5ghz 1090t. Not just a 10 minute run.
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This motherboard here for 100 bucks. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131668And like I said before I don't know why you have to be nasty like all the other intel people on here. You guys are all nasty. your only friend in life must be your intel cpu. I did search that before and like I already stated I returned no hits. I don't know why but no bechies were coming up then.

Your motherboard is 50 bucks more than the one I just posted and they are basically the same except for the obvious-form factor(your is smaller means less material and is still more money) and chipset. AND the AMD mobo even has an integrated 4250 radeon gpu all for only 100 bucks.

smaller form factor? they are the same atx

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=HMMvTCuBcZLfu2YL

nuff said, and who the heck would use a 4250 onboard vid? stop trying to justify your disservice to your friend.
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