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post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by error10;12663635 
I have yet to meet anyone who didn't regret buying an eMachine.

I'll suggest a few cons: You may not be able to upgrade it later. It may be slow. The BIOS may be crappy and not let you overclock, or even enable AMD-V (which you'll want). It may die a horrible death and you find they won't honor the warranty because it was a full moon that night and damage from werewolves isn't covered.

I got a emachines for christmas when i was 12, used it until i bought my sig rig. Played all my games on it fine, never crashed, no complaints at all.
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post #12 of 23
If your know about computers and are going to spend roughly 300 Bucks then build it yourself. Emachines are the lowest of the low pc's. Family member had one and hated it and gave it to me to mess with. I have to say your right they do work and are reliable but slow and cant upgrade main components easily.

I vote for build your own and you have a higher chance of re selling it, than trying to sell you emachines pc.

Your Build looks good so far good job.
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post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by subassy View Post
Someone tell me if I should just start another thread for this but here's my latest parts list. Managed to add a quad core and still keep it cheap via the famous open-box. I just hope it doesn't sell out before I get home thanks my drawing attention (that probably won't happen, right?).



This is probably what I will buy unless some one can find a flaw in the list...


I had four memory sticks with a board that has only two slots so I'm continuing my shopping cart re-org now. My quest for a good $300 VM server shall continue...

And thanks for the feedback and help guys!!
I'm not an AMD guy, but what I see looks pretty solid.

With several VM's, disk I/O can become a problem, so I have mine spread out over all my drives (Except my SSD). If you try to run more than 3 VM's off of one HDD, you might start having issues. Don't know how many HDD's you plan on putting in this build, and I totally forgot to mention this earlier, so I figured I'd throw it in now for you.
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post #14 of 23
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In december I bought four 1TB HDDs (I now I have a total of 7 1TB and at least four 500 gigs). At least four of the 1TB were going to go into the NAS I'm technically still building (see link in sig).

So to answer your question some where between 2 and 6 drives (the motherboard I want to get has six sata ports) of 1TB or 500gig hard drives (or some combination therein). Although several of the 1TB drives are WD "green" drives so that may limit my options (I should probably use my WD Blacks instead for VM stuff, right?).
 
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post #15 of 23
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post #16 of 23
I do not think I would do it. I would build it myself. I know its a server, but you can probably build a better rig yourself and get a better and more stable platform from it. I have quite a few emachines still going so I am not sure why there is so much hate, but I would still build it myself.
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post #17 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by subassy View Post
In december I bought four 1TB HDDs (I now I have a total of 7 1TB and at least four 500 gigs). At least four of the 1TB were going to go into the NAS I'm technically still building (see link in sig).

So to answer your question some where between 2 and 6 drives (the motherboard I want to get has six sata ports) of 1TB or 500gig hard drives (or some combination therein). Although several of the 1TB drives are WD "green" drives so that may limit my options (I should probably use my WD Blacks instead for VM stuff, right?).
I've heard the greens are noticeably slower, so yeah not using them would be my first thought. I also partitioned the crap out of my hard drives to make sure that each VM is on its own logical partition. Even my spooler file has its own partition. What can I say? I'm crazy, but at least I know if I go to print something while one of my VM's is working in the background, I don't run the risk of having 2 expanding files step on each other and causing a BSOD. Chances of this happening are small, but I'm not a gambler. If I bet RED on Roulette it always comes up 0 or 00 lol
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post #18 of 23
Processor power isn't as vital to a virtualisation server as you'd think. A nice set of disks, and plenty of RAM will benefit you much more than a quadcore with 2 GB's and a single disk.

I'm not kidding, I've run ESX on a dual pentium 3 machine with 768 MB's of RAM and it still performed okay. Even without VT/V/Vanderpool support the CPU performance is good (the overhead is quite low). Right now I'm running an ESXi server with 4 GB's of ram, three drives in RAID5 for storage, 2 drives in RAID1 for the OS and 4 GB's of RAM and it works fine with just the single Pentium 4 @ 3 GHz.

Since you're building a cheap machine, focus on the AMD-V, and 64 bit capabilities. Any processor with that should be fine. Then get 4-8 GB's of RAM, a couple of disks (1 disk for every machine would be nice), and perhaps an extra network card or two.
    
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post #19 of 23
Thread Starter 
Here's the final parts list, I finally pulled the trigger. I think I put together a pretty good system for amazingly cheap if I do say so. I was able to cheat with the open box deal and setting for a mere triple-core. If I need more CPU power for some reason I can always attempt to unlock the fourth core and/or over-clock it. Right...?





Thanks for talking me out of the eMachine (that I would have paid more for!) everybody!!
 
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post #20 of 23
For VM's outside of your own box?

Software(I prefer VirtualBox)>Memory( Allocating 1GB+ea. makes them snappy and the hard disk won't bottleneck so much from swap)>Hard disk for ea. VM(2 per works too)>Good RDP client( I prefer to dualboot into a linux environment for it seems less laggy and seamless) for maintenance/updates, standard manipulation. A kvm would work too.

Dedicated network cards also open up of a lot of possibilities if you would like to use these VM's outside of you internal network. The eMachine would work but building your own box would provide better results and expansion. For a long time I just used my only pc to play with VM's and have learned a lot just firing up a couple with decent hardware.
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