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Though this is for a future build I don't plan on lowering the quality of boards I'm buying, so hopefully the RAID controller onboard will be as good as possible for onboard configs.

In Short I'm looking to Raid 0, or possibly Raid 5, but I wans't 100% clear on Raid 0 and SSD/Failure.

I've looked around and heard a number of mixed things, so if I can get the facts re: Raid 0 and SSD's that would be great. (Ideally Raid 0 because I mean no Data loss in increased Array size)

Also do the same risks apply from using a onboard Raid controller?
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RAID 0 and SSDs are fine. RAID0 SSDs ARE FAST!!!!!!
No matter what, same risks when using RAID.
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I thought what makes a HD fail isn't applicable to SSD's but instead more user based errors.

But honestly I don't know too much about the area, just if I'm going to be running 2-3 SSD's I want the best performance out of them, I mean considering aren't SSD's basically RAID 0'd to begin with from what I gathered, or is it just how they deal internally with the errors?
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SSDs hardly ever fail.
Just RAID0 two SSDs and might want to keep a backup on regular HDD just incase.
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Quote:
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SSDs hardly ever fail.
Just RAID0 two SSDs and might want to keep a backup on regular HDD just incase.
Ya my basic plan is to Raid 2-3 SSD's run a direct back up into whatever the largest size 3.5" is, or may stick a 2.5" for back ups, not sure will need to see in a year or two and see what the sizes are looking at.

I'm anticipating 5-6TB in 3.5" and 2TB in 2.5"?

Question is what size affordable SSD's are going to be avaliable =)


But as long as they are stable I'm fairly sure I'll go that route, I'll be using SSD's mainly and if they are looking to be pushing 350GB in affordability I'll definitely pick up a couple.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by triangle View Post
SSDs hardly ever fail.
Just RAID0 two SSDs and might want to keep a backup on regular HDD just incase.
I have two C300 64Gb in Raid 0 with my MB controller with a HDD for backups. Works BLAZINGLY FAST. Have been running this way for couple months now and NO problems. ITS FAST !!
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post #7 of 10
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I have no doubts that it will be fast in the mobo controller =), just I've heard some pretty nasty horror stories about Raid 0 and Motherboard based Raid Arrays, instability for instance and commonly leading to failure, in normal HD's though.

Not sure if this is true at all.
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Don't use Jmicron controller.
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Odds are that the increased performance of RAID'ed SSDs won't be noticeable unless you running very I/O intensive tasks.

Then there is the issue of TRIM and garbage collection on SSD RAID arrays... I'm not exactly sure how this can affect things (or whether it's supported with current controllers/SSDs) but it's something to consider.
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post #10 of 10
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I'll have to re-access the size vs risk, when the time comes it seems, I have a feeling 1 SSD still isn't going to be enough and with the sharp increase in price if you dare try and get something with more capacity.

Hence why Raid 0 seems perfect, I hear TRIM can't knocked off but doens't overall affect performance but I'm not 100% sure of any of this.
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