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post #11 of 27
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Originally Posted by Nutty Pumpkin View Post
Hey man,

PCCG are a great shop!

Looks all good, but id change the case and PSU...

It has terrible cable management, you'd be better of with a CM 690 II Advanced with Window.

And, i'd get a Corsair PSU!

Anyways, always good to see another Aussie on OCN!

Almost forgot!
Save money on your CPU cooler and RAM coolers if your not gonna OC!
Kangaroo invasion!!

But he has a good point i overlooked. The DH14, while epic, is uneeded for a non OC'd system. You really could stick with the stock cooler for the time being until you get into OCing. That in combination with what weve both side about the RAM Cooler saves you almost 140.


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ill be playing gta iv/EFLC, crysis, need for speed series, CoD series, etc, etc,

baaaaaahahahaha!!!!
Ive got a 6 year old first gen wireless mouse at the moment (my good one died, haven't replaced yet). For GTA it isn't terrible, but it isn't great either. CoD SP wasn't bad, but was a lot better with the good mouse. Crysis i haven't played on this mouse.
Id take the savings from the coolers and get a good mouse
Edited by NameUnknown - 3/8/11 at 11:59pm
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2500 still overclocks just not unlocked multiplier , which isn't a big deal for medium/light overclockers, you'll still hit the high 4.0's (4.8) maybe fairly easily.


Like above poster said I'd swap out the PSU, but not sure whats available over in Ausland.

I would invest a bit more in a bigger screen, 23-25.5" (not very much more expensive but nicer feeling)

and I would spend a bit more on decent mouse/keyboard, combo's are generally bad =D

But not sure on your price range if thats already stretching it.

Considering your buying all of the parts right off the bat including peripherals, I imagine thats your first build?

Why do you want Crossfire, 1 6950 (unlocked perfered), will do you well enough for a long time and you can add another one later.

I insist you do a small amount of overclocking it isn't hard, if your not overclocking at all and are determined not to,

A. your going to bottleneck your GPU's
B. junk the D14, best Air cooler out there but also very very expensive, get a Hyper 212 or HDT or something in the guessing 50 aus range, or no aftermarket cooler at all.


As for overclocking, it may seem a bit scary but I assure you a light overclock is so easy and rewarding to do, there isn't any risk if you follow pretty basic steps of not mistakes 1's for 9's when setting the voltage, thats it x.x....


Your enthusiasm is great but slow down a tad on the build intensity =), cuz I see great stuff here, and other stuff there that doesn't make sense. 6950 CF would go to waste if your running your Processor on stock clocks =\\, would be improved fps but just aint the same =)
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it depends.... if i get a new good job... then i might think to overclock.... but not yet.... maybe after 6-7 months!!
Why does whether you overclock or not depend on your job? You don't need extra money to overclock when you are planning on buying all the necessary parts to overclock anyway (heatsink and the 'k' version of the CPU). There's no reason to hold it off till you get a job really, not that I can think of.
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Why does whether you overclock or not depend on your job? You don't need extra money to overclock when you are planning on buying all the necessary parts to overclock anyway (heatsink and the 'k' version of the CPU). There's no reason to hold it off till you get a job really, not that I can think of.
he said if he screws it up... he can't afford a new one.

Honestly, if someone cannot handle a simple over clock, they probably should NOT be building their own rig.

That being said:
ditch the NH-14 at the moment, its a waste.
larger monitor for gaming... 1600x900? Go full HD or ditch one of the graphics cards. You're just wasting money there.
    
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Why does whether you overclock or not depend on your job? You don't need extra money to overclock when you are planning on buying all the necessary parts to overclock anyway (heatsink and the 'k' version of the CPU). There's no reason to hold it off till you get a job really, not that I can think of.
if something breaks and the manufacturer wont replace, then he has to spend money. He likely is pushing his cashflow as it is (something i don't recommend you do) and therefore he doesn't want to OC until he can afford the risk. Its not about the current, but the risk that is inherent in OCing.
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I think only one person has pointed out the Cooler Master GX-series power supply he's picked...eww...

Stick with Corsair, Antec, XFX, or Seasonic and you'll pretty much always have a good one. Those are NOT the only good brands, but they're the ones that most consistently put out good units.
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I think only one person has pointed out the Cooler Master GX-series power supply he's picked...eww...

Stick with Corsair, Antec, XFX, or Seasonic and you'll pretty much always have a good one. Those are NOT the only good brands, but they're the ones that most consistently put out good units.
I like OCZ too... mine is rock solid
    
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I was going to defend the CM, but i pulled up the JohnnyGuru review on it....

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Performance (40% of the final score) - the Coolermaster GX-750 underwhelmed in just about every way possible. Regulation was only so-so, efficiency was remarkably lower than the 80 Plus test report would have us believe, and the 3.3V rail had more ripple than the last time I did a cannonball into a pool when I was still a three hundred plus pounder. To boot, the unit wouldn't even come close to full power at forty degrees before the overtemp protection came in and shut down the party. I dearly hope that Coolermaster's shipping retail units are better performing than my sample was, but since I couldn't get my hands on one of them I'll have to score this one as I see it. I have to do a 6 here I think.

Functionality (20% of the final score) - it is interesting that the one chain of Molex connectors also has a single SATA connector on it as well. I can see situations where you might want that sort of flexibility if you're upgrading an old system that still uses a bunch of older hard drives and you want to stick that one new SATA model in there without having to break out the actual SATA cable chains this unit has going on. It would suck if you only had to use one SATA connector and ended up having to hide the three others on each of those chains. So, that's a little bit of a nice feature. Also nice is the cable sleeving that goes right into the case. I do think this unit could benefit from being modular, but I can't fault it for not being modular. Still, I do find that one Molex chain to be a little bit on the long side, so a point will come off for that. 9.

Value (30% of the final score) - one advantage of waiting on a retail unit that's never arrived is that this model has had plenty of time to get into the marketplace. Provantage is selling this model for $89.75 as I type this. That's actually not too bad a price, but when you consider the performance of this unit and that the XFX 650W unit from the same vendor is a few bucks cheaper, I would have to say you're better off either going for that XFX and giving up the last 100 watts this unit can't easily put out anyway or spend a few bucks more to get a good 750W unit. 6.

Aesthetics (10% of the final score) - looks good to me. 9.


Performance 6
Functionality 9
Value 6
Aesthetics9

Total Score 7
And like it says on Value, that was at 90USD, well you are paying about 120USD, so yea, you are getting an even worse value....

So yea, like Drenlin said: Corsair, Antec, XFX, Seasonic
Sohryu mentioned OCZ, got to say I haven't really heard much bad about them other than they sometimes get a higher rating than the actual capacity. If you want to check a PSU do a search for the model and JohnyGuru on google. Great reviews.
Edited by NameUnknown - 3/9/11 at 12:52am
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@neokolzia: A 2500k, even at stock, isn't going to bottleneck any GPU on the market, and won't bottleneck even in SLI/Crossfire.

That stupid freakin' bottleneck term is thrown around so much on OCN. It's only until you get into Tri-SLI/XFire that you start seeing bottlenecks unless your CPU is at a high overclock.

He's not gonna see a miraculous FPS jump by going from 3.3ghz to 4.0ghz.

Edit: Please refer to this thread and see how little CPU speed influences FPS. It's a i7 920 at stock, 3.36, 4.01, and 4.33ghz, HT on. At the very most, it showed only a ~5% increase in FPS.

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...rformance.html
Edited by hyujmn - 3/9/11 at 9:34am
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@neokolzia: A 2500k, even at stock, isn't going to bottleneck any GPU on the market, and won't bottleneck even in SLI/Crossfire.

That stupid freakin' bottleneck term is thrown around so much on OCN. It's only until you get into Tri-SLI/XFire that you start seeing bottlenecks unless your CPU is at a high overclock.

He's not gonna see a miraculous FPS jump by going from 3.3ghz to 4.0ghz.
alot of terms are though around on OCN... bottlenecking... console port... stable... lol

3.3 GHz 2500k is going to be a great processor for any graphics card out there... even in 2 card SLI.

More if you OC it... like mine is at 4.9
    
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