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Hi guys,
I have a XFX radeon HD 4650 1gb Gddr2 card.The card's temp is 55C when idle and it goes upto 73C on load.Is this ok? Also my card's fan is not working properly.When I manually change the speed from 20% to 50% or more,the fan doesn't spin fast.It spins at the same speed as 20% even if I set the speed to 100%.What can I do? Also which catalyst version is good for my card? Please help.

Note:I don't have any high end games to test my card as my cousin has borrowed them from me.I tested the card's temp using GRAW2.
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post #2 of 16
That is well within the cards max temp. You should be fine. If you still want to lower it you should consider optimizing the fans in your case. Also don't forget to clean the cooler on the card. This can be done with compressed air while holding down the cards fan with a finger so that it does not spin.
On the question of the fan. Some cards are set to auto on the cards bios and cant be changed. It might also be a software issue. If that is the case you might try updating the drivers and that may fix it.
Edited by Ameth - 3/8/11 at 11:30pm
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post #3 of 16
Temperature wise that isnt bad at all, well within bounds for that card.

As for the fan, does it stay at 20% if you use another program to change the fan speed or does it move with that program as you change it? If it stays at 20% you could try flashing the cards BIOS or you could try taking the heatsink off, cleaning it and reseating it and trying agian. If that doesn't work you likely will needs to RMA if possible, or just get an aftermarket cooler.
BUt if it does work with a different software program to control the fan, then youll need to reinstall CCC
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post #4 of 16
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Thank you guys,I will try using Riva Tuner and Afterburner.
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post #5 of 16
Let us know how it works, Ill be up a while watching for an update smile.gif

Edit: 3:45am, im out. If you still cant get this resolved, im sure someone else here on OCN can pick up and get it resolved. If not, Ill leave this up to check when i get up.
Edited by NameUnknown - 3/9/11 at 12:44am
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post #6 of 16
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Which catalyst version works well with my card?
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post #7 of 16
I would use the most recent and then step back until you find one that works well.

So did Afterburner or Riva work for you?
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post #8 of 16
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Just one thing,I don't know how to adjust the fan speed in riva tuner or afterburner.Yesterday I reinstalled Xp sp2 32 bit.And installed the graphics driver(catalyst version 8.12).To my surprise the auto fan control is working(goes upto 42% on full load).Also I haven't unlocked the overdrive controls.Still the temp is 55C or 56C on idle and goes upto 76C on load(pre reinstall it was 55C when idle and 73C on load).When I looked carefully at the card I found out that there are no thermal pads on the memory chips.Is it ok?Also I am thinking of applying artic silver 5 to my card.Please provide me step by step instructions for doing so.Also please give my some tips for cooling my card.I have ordered the evercool fox 1,I think I will get the cooler by tomorrow.Please tell me the things you know about evercool fox 1.

Note:My case(Mini-ATX) has no adequate cooling.It has only one 90mm exhaust fan at the back.Also it is a oem case.

Edit:Riva Tuner show that my shader core's temp is 2147483520.00 Celsius.why is that???
Edited by jacksn290 - 3/10/11 at 7:02am
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post #9 of 16
I don't know how to adjust the fan speed in riva tuner but in afterburner there is a bar that allows you to do so on the bottom left.
Afterburner.jpg
Mine is gray because I am on my laptop with a non-controllable fan.

The memory chips would give a different readout than your core and if they are do not sit under the GPU heat-sink then XFX must have deemed it unnecessary to cool them with a heat-sink. I myself don't know if these cards need it but most of the high end cards today do.

http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/764434-how-change-tim-gpu.html
This thread should help you remove and replace the TIM on your card. This may help with the temps.

I don't know much about the evercool fox 1 but more fans in your case will help more imo. If you can a pic of the case and card may help.

Riva Tuner showing that your shader core's temp is that huge number is either a software error or a thermal sensor error. It happens its nothing to worry about.
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post #10 of 16
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Thank you ameth.Will check the link now.
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