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Hello Folks,

I'm planning on upgrading my sig rig within the next 2 weeks and I was hoping you guys can help me.

I'm currently using a GTX 295 with a 9800GTX for physx. I love some of the nvidia technologies and i've been implementing them all including 3d vision (broke glasses when drunk). This combo is awesome, but I notice the physx gpu kinda pointless unless its a nvidia optimized game like Mafia 2.

With all the awesome games coming out I would like to be prepared.
Although I love Nvidia, i'm open for ideas from ATI folks as well.

I dont care which brand, I just want to be able to have a fast single gpu card that performs better then my current setup with the possibility for the upgrade later down the road for a multi gpu setup. I will also be upgrading my monitor in a while to a 1920x1200 resolution... and maybe later 2 more identical monitor's to use the tripple monitor spanning technologies later down the road from green or red vendor.

Thanks for your help in advance. Frag on
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I recommend a GTX570
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HD6970.
Or drop $750 on the brand new HD6990.
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post #4 of 43
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I recommend a GTX570
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HD6970.
Or drop $750 on the brand new HD6990.

I wouldn't recommend those; in games where your GTX295 takes advantage of SLI you wouldn't see a worthwhile improvement.

Get a GTX580, that is where your performance level is at, no sense in going lower.


P.S. - Read Tom's Hardware or Anandtech's review of the HD6990. That was a rushed card. It is fast, but it's a complete nonsense. System builders are having a nightmare putting one of those in a case with sufficient long-term cooling reliability. For more money all you get is bragging rights. It makes way too much noise, puts out too much heat with a very questionable cooling solution and does not perform better than two HD6970 in Crossfire, which are cooler, make less noise, have better drivers as of now and are cheaper.
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Well Soviot4mbo,

I think you may be confusing "Nvidia optimised" with Games with Physx in them.

not all games use physx and certainly not all new games use physx. eg - Crysis 2 is not an physix enabled game.

You will only ever utilise your physx card when running an application with physx in it!

For a list of games that have Physx in them see HERE

In terms of upgrade path for you. What is your budget and do you intend to keep your i7 and all?

The GTX570 are good but so are the GTX580 adn HD 6950/70s

If you want to sty Dual GPU single card - the GTX590 (out soon) and HD6990 (out now) are right up your alley! ( if you have $700 to spare!)

But as I said - If you give us your budget we can better advise!
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post #6 of 43
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I wouldn't recommend those; in games where your GTX295 takes advantage of SLI you wouldn't see a worthwhile improvment.

Get a GTX580, that is where your performance level is at, no sense in going lower.
Agreed, the 295 is still a number cruncher, the only upgrade would be a top of the line 5xx series card,

Alternatively go quad-sli and get another one, i have 2 x 285's which is a decent step up from the 295, and i'm not having any problems in any of the latest games, granted i'm not getting DX11, but i personally don't see any major advantage, other than it degrades the FPS.

I'm thinking of an upgrade and the only thing i'm looking at is twin 480's (because they're 200 each now) or twin 570's

I've always believed that a lower series sli set up would be better than a single high series card and there is the obvious performance margins.

So to conclude, if you really want an upgrade (+FPS) then a 580 or the equivalent ATi - 6990.
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Quote:
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If you want to sty Dual GPU single card - the GTX590 (out soon) and HD6990 (out now) are right up your alley! ( if you have $700 to spare!)

Quote:
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Agreed, the 295 is still a number cruncher, the only upgrade would be a top of the line 5xx series card,

Alternatively go quad-sli and get another one, i have 2 x 285's which is a decent step up from the 295, and i'm not having any problems in any of the latest games, granted i'm not getting DX11, but i personally don't see any major advantage, other than it degrades the FPS.

I'm thinking of an upgrade and the only thing i'm looking at is twin 480's (because they're 200 each now) or twin 570's

I've always believed that a lower series sli set up would be better than a single high series card and there is the obvious performance margins.

So to conclude, if you really want an upgrade (+FPS) then a 580 or the equivalent ATi - 6990.

You guys didn't read one fundamental sentence in his post:


Quote:
Originally Posted by sovietr4mbo View Post
I dont care which brand, I just want to be able to have a fast single gpu card that performs better then my current setup with the possibility for the upgrade later down the road for a multi gpu setup.
The only option is the GTX580; the HD6990 is a terrible option because of the reasons I cited in the P.S. in my previous post, and it's a dual GPU card anyway. GTX570 and 6970 don't perform better than his current setup.

There is only one: GTX580, with the possiblity to upgrade via SLI in the future, like he requests.
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Find a cheap gtx 480 online. You guys are giving the gtx295 too much credit the card sucks at high resolutions and a lot of single gpu cards destroy them.
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I'm thinking of an upgrade and the only thing i'm looking at is twin 480's (because they're 200 each now)

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Hello Folks,

I'm planning on upgrading my sig rig within the next 2 weeks and I was hoping you guys can help me.

I'm currently using a GTX 295 with a 9800GTX for physx. I love some of the nvidia technologies and i've been implementing them all including 3d vision (broke glasses when drunk). This combo is awesome, but I notice the physx gpu kinda pointless unless its a nvidia optimized game like Mafia 2.

With all the awesome games coming out I would like to be prepared.
Although I love Nvidia, i'm open for ideas from ATI folks as well.

I dont care which brand, I just want to be able to have a fast single gpu card that performs better then my current setup with the possibility for the upgrade later down the road for a multi gpu setup. I will also be upgrading my monitor in a while to a 1920x1200 resolution... and maybe later 2 more identical monitor's to use the tripple monitor spanning technologies later down the road from green or red vendor.

Thanks for your help in advance. Frag on
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You guys didn't read one fundamental sentence in his post:




The only option is the GTX580; the HD6990 is a terrible option because of the reasons I cited in the P.S. in my previous post, and it's a dual GPU card anyway. GTX570 and 6970 don't perform better than his current setup.

There is only one: GTX580, with the possiblity to upgrade via SLI in the future, like he requests.
Actually - this could also be read as a single card that is a gpu card - so the GTX590/HD6990 references are still sound. + the OP already has a dual GPU.
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