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post #71 of 82
Hmm.. I might finally replace my system then

I hope the quads have good price/perf. specially compared to intel.

If not, might just get the cheapest quad/dual with HT from intel.
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I wish the 990x boards would come out NOW.
AM3 CPUs will work in a AM3+ board (from what I remember)

IF the CrossHair V was to come out now, I could Slap in my 1055T, ddr3, and just sit waiting for BD...
Is This not a good idea for Board Companies JF?

This would allow me to sell my 890fx to help pay for BD.
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Come on! I'm already excited about Llano!

I don't know if I should get a Sandy Bridge lappy with at least 6570, or wait for Llano. I wish Llano doesn't disappoint.
   
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Originally Posted by F-U-B-A-R View Post
Actually these will be backwards compatible for AM3.. You will not just be able to use its full potential.
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Originally Posted by newpc View Post
dude. stop giving false information to others when u dont know about it.

bulldozer will work on amd3 boards. the board with black sockets can run am3+ cpu's


LOOK!

The problem here is that people don't understand that AM2 / AM2+ /AM3 / AM3+ is the socket type, not the chipset.

Anyway, if they want to go out and buy a Bulldozer, but not a new mobo, let them. I'd love to see their faces once they'd pulled out their old cpu, and tried to hammer the new one in!
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To reiterate what JF-AMD has stated once before - AMD can make processors that completely blow Intel's best tech out of the water. It's just that you couldn't afford it, nor would others.
Well, if AMD cannot make CPUs as performing as Intel's with the similar costs, then it can't keep up with its competitor.

The argument that a hypothetically uber-fast processor would "cost too much" is simply illogical. The key to profitability in the hardware industry is to bring great computing power at an affordable cost like Intel is doing with Sandy Bridge. If AMD can't deliver that, no one would really care if they could potentially make the best processor in the Milky Way if they can't mass produce it and market it for profit.

Having said that, I'm quite sure BD will do fine, as AMD's recent releases have been excellent.
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post #76 of 82
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This is either gonna be the life blood of AMD or the Death Nail. I really hope that they can keep up with the competition.
That is wrong on so many layers. I am going to go out on the assumption that you are talking about the highest speed processor only. If that is the case, then keep in mind that the top bin speed $1000 part accounts for a fraction of a percent of the entire market. If 99.999% of the market are NOT buying the top part, then I guess that leaves a pretty big slice of the market for AMD to compete on.

What matters is head to head comparisons at different price points. If you have $500 to spend on a processor you are going to choose the best performance at that price point. You are not going to say "I need to achieve xyz score on a benchmark, now how much do I need to spend."


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dude. stop giving false information to others when u dont know about it.

bulldozer will work on amd3 boards. the board with black sockets can run am3+ cpu's


LOOK!
No, Bulldozer is not supported on AM3 sockets.

Quote:
Originally Posted by knoxy_14 View Post
That's why msi stamped am3+ on one of there 890 am3 chipset boards
There is no such thing as an AM3 chipset. There is an AM3 socket and bulldozer is not supported on AM3 sockets.
post #77 of 82
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Originally Posted by JF-AMD View Post
There is no such thing as an AM3 chipset. There is an AM3 socket and bulldozer is not supported on AM3 sockets.
This statement needs to be posted in bold print in every Bulldozer thread on the forum....
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Well, if AMD cannot make CPUs as performing as Intel's with the similar costs, then it can't keep up with its competitor.

The argument that a hypothetically uber-fast processor would "cost too much" is simply illogical. The key to profitability in the hardware industry is to bring great computing power at an affordable cost like Intel is doing with Sandy Bridge. If AMD can't deliver that, no one would really care if they could potentially make the best processor in the Milky Way if they can't mass produce it and market it for profit.

Having said that, I'm quite sure BD will do fine, as AMD's recent releases have been excellent.
AMD has always been competitive, it's only the small group of people who rant about getting their Intel stuff at Microcenter for similar price points as other AMD parts that break up the 'usual' pricing comparisons. Not to mention the commercial industry which very few people here work with.

In any case - AMD isn't going anywhere and they will be just fine. Agreed.
    
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You are not going to say "I need to achieve xyz score on a benchmark, now how much do I need to spend."
eh here you might have a majority of people who do that, but i do understand what your saying.

i just don't understand the quietness about bulldozer, i mean if its a great product why not show it off and get people to wait?
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i just don't understand the quietness about bulldozer, i mean if its a great product why not show it off and get people to wait?
That question has already been answered.
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The reality is that the impact from stalling sales is much larger than the potential sales to be gained. Financially, releasing benchmarks is a bad financial decision. If we could actually make more money, don't you think that everyone would be doing it?

It is a standard practice in the industry. Now, you could say that we could leak it, but a leak is the exact same thing, it messes up the supply chain and costs you more than you make.
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