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My poor E7300

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hello everyone, im new here, just created this account actually

and i created it for a reason, i have lots of questions to ask you people.

i recently bought a GTX 460, i had a GT 240 before.

by comparing the two cards stats, i see GTX 460 is a lot better in many ways. but.. i cant see any improvement at all, actually it has some downsides !

the only game i play at the moment is Bad Company 2. i've never checked my FPS with GT 240, but im pretty sensitive to the smoothness of the game, so i think it was around 30-40 with GT 240.

but hey guess what, GTX 460 has exactly the same FPS, it lingers around 40~.
i have only 2x anti aliasing enabled, no VSYNC whatsoever, and the rest are on HIGH.

so GTX 460 didnt change my FPS at all, and it even freezes my game for about 7-8 seconds after loading, then works properly (if 40 fps is proper).

so my question is, is this caused because of the CPU? i have a rather low CPU. i would like to OC the CPU, im using the "profile" setting in BIOS to OC it. there is 5% 10% 15% and 20% in the options, but if i choose anything higher than 15%, windows doesnt even start, it says i got some corrupted files. lowering the OC to 10% solves this.

long story short, i cant OC my CPU, anything higher than 15% completely crashes my PC.

any help is appreciated, and please try to be detailed and simple, the only part of computers im not good at is their hardware
post #2 of 59
Yes, it is your CPU. My E8400 was clocked at 4.3ghz and I only got around 35fps avg with my 5850 on medium settings.

Upon upgrading to a quad i5, my framerate can reach up to above 100fps constantly.
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im also a noob in motherboards, can you see if i5 is compatible with my motherboard?

and well, then OCing the CPU wont do the trick.
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no it wont be.

youll have to buy a new motherboard socket 1156. ddr3 ram with a i5
    
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im also a noob in motherboards, can you see if i5 is compatible with my motherboard?

and well, then OCing the CPU wont do the trick.
You'll need a new motherboard to get an i5 (LGA 1156) and new ram DDR3.

You could however buy a standard LGA775 (your motherboard chip) quad core and most likely play at 60fps, depending on which processor you get and whether you will overclock it. However, this would be upgrading on a dead chip and the 775 quads are pretty overpriced for what they are.
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a new motherboard and ram it is then.. damnit thats a lot of cash

thanks for the help guys ! and just curious, why cant i OC my CPU more than 15%?
post #7 of 59
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a new motherboard and ram it is then.. damnit thats a lot of cash

thanks for the help guys ! and just curious, why cant i OC my CPU more than 15%?
You're probably overlooking the RAM side of the overclocking process. You need to more or less keep your speed and timings exactly the same, and that can be difficult when changing the FSB. I made the same mistake when I first started overclocking.
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post #8 of 59
could be a few reasons.
(:
eg. not enough volts, temps to high, cpu wont go that high. motherboard wont let you go that high...

if your on a tight budget illd go for a Core 2 Quad, ( socket LGA 775. ) so it will fit into your motherboard.

and then save a beast
    
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a new motherboard and ram it is then.. damnit thats a lot of cash

thanks for the help guys ! and just curious, why cant i OC my CPU more than 15%?
Two reasons, you are overclocking using the automated BIOS guide and the motherboard you have now is not designed for overclocking...

I would upgrade the motherboard to a model that is designed for enthusiast overclocking then see how far you can push the E7300. If that is still not satisfactory, try finding a used Q9*50 chip on the forum. Only go with a 775 quad if you get a better motherboard. If your current board has trouble overclocking a C2D chip, it will be worse with a C2Q.
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post #10 of 59
battlefield BC is a crappy port (IMO), rapes any dual core. No matter what videos settings I put on that game I would max out at around 45fps with some heavy dips with intense action going on.

Even GTA IV didn't run that crappy for me.
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