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post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
OK really could I decide on a laptop already? rolleyes.gif

Anyways....I have narrowed it down to a Sager. Now which one?

Option 1

8130xx.png Sager NP8130 / Clevo P151HM1 - Out Of Stock ETA March
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen-
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- - 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- nVidia GeForce GTX 460M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)-
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Software
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay - When Selecting, Optical Drive is NOT Included
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Back Up Software
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- None Standard--
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs

- No Xotic PC Gear
$1,209.00

Option 2

Sager NP8150 / Clevo P150HM - Out Of Stock ETA March
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Glare Type Screen
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- - 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- nVidia GeForce GTX 460M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)-
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Software
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) - Default
- No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay - When Selecting, Optical Drive is NOT Included
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Back Up Software
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- None Standard--
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs

- No Xotic PC Gear
$1,399.00

Option 3
8150xx.png Sager NP8150 / Clevo P150HM - Out Of Stock ETA March
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Glare Type Screen
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- - 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- nVidia GeForce GTX 485M 2,048MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 (User Upgradeable)
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)-
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Software
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) - Default
- No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay - When Selecting, Optical Drive is NOT Included
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Back Up Software
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- None Standard--
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs

- No Xotic PC Gear
$1,894.00

Option 4

8170xx.png Sager NP8170-S1 / Clevo P170HM - Out Of Stock ETA March
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen (1920x1080)-
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- - 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- nVidia GeForce GTX 470M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)-
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Software
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- Raid 0 Stripe Enabled (Requires 2 or 3 Hard Drives. Combines Hard Drives for performance)
- No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay - When Selecting, Optical Drive is NOT Included
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Back Up Software
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- None Standard--
- Intel® Advanced-N 6230 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Bluetooth
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs

- No Xotic PC Gear
$1,729.01

Now my max is about $1500, but with some coaxing I could squeeze out some more dough. biggrin.gif
One of my burning questions is how bad is the GTX460m for gaming? Is it underpowered? Should I care?

Thanks!
Edited by bluedevil - 3/9/11 at 10:15pm
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post #2 of 25
I would go with the 8150, because I hear you can upgrade the graphics card later on.

I would consider the 2720QM since its the best bang for the buck processor and I would also consider buying from Sager directly instead of xotic, seems to be cheaper.
    
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post #3 of 25
dont go with option 4, the 470 is a joke. no reason to buy it over the 460. the 460 or 485 are the only 2 worth getting or wait it out on the 6970m. i personally went with the 8170 with the 460 and will later upgrade the video card when it can no longer game.
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post #4 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyanmcleod;12679913 
dont go with option 4, the 470 is a joke. no reason to buy it over the 460. the 460 or 485 are the only 2 worth getting or wait it out on the 6970m. i personally went with the 8170 with the 460 and will later upgrade the video card when it can no longer game.

I gotta look at that combo....might be good for now. biggrin.gif
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post #5 of 25
You may be interested in doing something like this.

This company sells clevo barebones.

Here is the P150HM
http://rjtech.com/shop/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30026
    
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post #6 of 25
If I wanted a decent gamer for up to two years and the smaller size isn't an issue, I'd get the 8130 because it is "cheap". I'd consider a BR player to so that it holds it's resale value.

If I wanted really good gaming and I was looking at 3+ years, I'd get option #3. If the cash isn't an issue I'd take the power.

If you are getting the 8130/50, I'd get the 750GB HDD. The price is a little high, but it is less expensive than getting it yourself, $20 more for the 500GB isn't too bad.

The laptop with the 470 isn't worth it price/performance wise.

If I was making my own build: $2029/1968 [$1909/1848 w/o Blu-Ray]

Sager NP8150 / Clevo P150HM - Out Of Stock ETA March
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Glare Type Screen
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- - 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- nVidia GeForce GTX 485M 2,048MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 (User Upgradeable)
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 6,144MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)
- Standard Finish
- ~ 6X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay - When Selecting, Optical Drive is NOT Included
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Back Up Software
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- None Standard--
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs
- No Xotic PC Gear
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post #7 of 25
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Starting to think that replacing the GPU is kind of a bad idea.....

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post #8 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluedevil;12681278 
Starting to think that replacing the GPU is kind of a bad idea.....

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Changing out GPUs on a sager is really simple and wont void your warranty. There are plenty of guides available if you decide you are interested in this route later down the road, and plenty of people that are experienced in doing it.
Also certain resellers will allow you to send your laptop back and upgrade the gpu for the cost in parts + 5% (like mythlogic, but they tend to be pricier)

As for choosing which setup you should get, it really depends on how comfortable you are with spending that much money.


Option 1- You dont want to upgrade your gpu later on, and are happy with good performance.

Option 2- You plan on upgrading later down the line.

Option 3- The best GPU now so you can come close to maxing everything with good fps.

Option 4- you want a 17" screen, and brushed aluminum. GPU performance isnt close to the 485.
----

Now some side notes:
The 8150's have a slight problem, they are covered in a rubber type finish, which most people like, except the finish is used on the track pad as well which pretty much everyone dislikes.

The Matte screen is sorta the better screen. As it will display images as crisp and vibrant as the glossy screen, but you wont have the glossy screen reflection people hate.

The 6970, which is supposed to come close to the 485m and be quite a bit cheaper was rumored for late march, but it's a rumor and i wouldnt wait for it if you want your laptop soon. The only signs of it being available somewhat soon are the ES on the market, but none of the resellers have told us there is an official announcement or anything.
---

Now my personal opinion- I'd get the 8130 unless official news of the 6970 comes up. Because for me I cant spend 600+ for a gpu upgrade. The 460m is a solid card for price/performance and wont let you down, you just have to accept it wont be able to max games like its way more expensive brother can. Plus the trackpad 'issue' and glossy screen helps sway my own decision, and the only thing that could nullify those is the 6970, which currently has no official release date.
Edited by s-x - 3/10/11 at 10:15am
post #9 of 25
^^ i couldnt agree more, i personally like the larger 17 inch screen so the 8170 is the only way for me and the price of the 485 is just too rich for my blood so i am going with the 460 now and at the end of the year if i find out i cant play BF3 on high enough settings i will get another video card.
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post #10 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyanmcleod;12683767 
^^ i couldnt agree more, i personally like the larger 17 inch screen so the 8170 is the only way for me and the price of the 485 is just too rich for my blood so i am going with the 460 now and at the end of the year if i find out i cant play BF3 on high enough settings i will get another video card.

Which is kinda what I am thinking but kinda don't want to invest that much into a laptop.

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