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Originally Posted by d4005;12706326 
So I'll want the i7 2600K and a P67 board for future overclocking possibilities

You'll need to get a cheap graphics card with P67 because it doesn't support the IGP. Pretty much anything should do. For motherboard I would suggest the one that rui-no-onna has been eyeing, the Asus P8P67-M Pro.

That is, unless the Z68 chipset boards happen to be released in the meantime. Those support overclocking as well as the IGP.
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Most M-ITX boards are H67 ergo no overclocking.

For some strange reason Zotac is still claiming theirs can overclock. I'm looking forward to reviews to see if this is true, and how far.
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For some strange reason Zotac is still claiming theirs can overclock. I'm looking forward to reviews to see if this is true, and how far.
Perhaps they're referring to the graphics?
P67: CPU overclock, no iGPU support, no iGPU overclocking
H67: no CPU overclock, iGPU support, iGPU overclocking
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You shouldn't face any such issues with microATX. Hmm, I, myself, have been eying the Asus P8P67-M PRO for my mATX living room HTPC. It even supports SLI.
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You'll need to get a cheap graphics card with P67 because it doesn't support the IGP. Pretty much anything should do. For motherboard I would suggest the one that rui-no-onna has been eyeing, the Asus P8P67-M Pro.
I've just searched on the site of the company that will (probably) build it for me. They have the P8P67 Pro (but without the -M). What's the M for?

I know it means I'll need a graphics card. I've currently got a HD 5750 Passive picked out, either this one, or this one (although I never heard of PowerColor as a manufacturer).

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I've just searched on the site of the company that will (probably) build it for me. They have the P8P67 Pro (but without the -M). What's the M for?
-M means it's microATX. The ones without suffixes are usually full ATX.
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-M means it's microATX. The ones without suffixes are usually full ATX.
D'oh! There's me thinking it was a trivial regional/country thing Thanks
    
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-M means it's microATX. The ones without suffixes are usually full ATX.
Do you happen to know what "Pro" brings to the table? I'm comparing a P8P67 against a P8P67 Pro (the non -M versions) and I can't find a difference (other than in price). I'd like to know whether to accept a non-pro version if that microATX version comes out first. I'll wait for the Pro version if it's something relevant to me.
    
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Do you happen to know what "Pro" brings to the table? I'm comparing a P8P67 against a P8P67 Pro (the non -M versions) and I can't find a difference (other than in price). I'd like to know whether to accept a non-pro version if that microATX version comes out first. I'll wait for the Pro version if it's something relevant to me.
If I remember correctly (from my early research), the primary difference between the two is that the Pro version supports both SLI and CrossFireX while the non-Pro is limited to CrossFireX. Another thing, the Pro has 3 PCIe x16 slots which can run at x16/x0/x4 or x8/x8/x4 while the non-Pro can only do x16/x4. Granted, it's very unlikely that you'll be cramming 3 GPU's on such a small board. Even two is already a stretch and may present some heat issues.
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The Pro version also has an Intel PHY for the 10/100/1000 NIC, while the non-Pro uses Realtek.
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The Pro version also has an Intel PHY for the 10/100/1000 NIC, while the non-Pro uses Realtek.
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If I remember correctly (from my early research), the primary difference between the two is that the Pro version supports both SLI and CrossFireX while the non-Pro is limited to CrossFireX. Another thing, the Pro has 3 PCIe x16 slots which can run at x16/x0/x4 or x8/x8/x4 while the non-Pro can only do x16/x4. Granted, it's very unlikely that you'll be cramming 3 GPU's on such a small board. Even two is already a stretch and may present some heat issues.
Thanks. I'll look out for those features. I don't think I'll be needing SLI or CrossFireX, and I'm happy enough with Realtek. I guess I'll only need Pro if I need 3 PCIe slots (currently I'm expecting to need 2).
    
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I had to give up hope of getting a microATX within a reasonable time so I accepted I'd have to go ATX and Miditower. Machine in sig ordered and should arrive next week. Thanks for all the advice I've received here. Great site.
    
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