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I was thinking about getting a custom made radiator thats about 40cm long, 20 wide and 5 cm high mounted in the top of the case with 2x23cm fans that came with the case.

The parts I have now is :
-Koolance VID-AR587
-Koolance PMP-450
-Apogee cpu cooler, think its GT
-Alphacool Cape eye Res
-1/2" tubing
(I have gotten these parts from different sources, some are new, and some are used, if this is odd)

My first WC setup BTW.

Attached image looks like hell, hope you get a idea what I'm trying to get opinions about smile.gif

Do I get less resistance from the loop if I tube it like in the picture?

Gpu block is more restrictive right? So the waterflow would stream faster over the cpu block than the gpu that might result in poor cooling?

The radiator would get 3 output threads if this is a good idea, 2 output and 1 fill port.

Thanks for all advice you could provide and attention smile.gif
Edited by NorxMAL - 3/20/11 at 6:38pm
post #2 of 16
Why go through all the trouble of having a custom radiator built when you could just use a Y fitting and split the flow after the radiator? I think a custom radiator would be ridiculously expensive compared to the performance you will see. You could probably just do two independent loops using normal water cooling gear for the same price.
    
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post #3 of 16
It is a dumb idea.
post #4 of 16
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I want silent operation, like that I can turn off the fans and make the radiator passive cooled?
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by NorxMAL;12682068 
I was thinking about getting a custom made radiator thats about 40cm long, 20 wide and 5 cm high mounted in the top of the case with 2x23cm fans that came with the case.

The parts I have now is :
-Koolance VID-AR587
-Koolance PMP-450
-Apogee cpu cooler, think its GT
-Alphacool Cape eye Res
-1/2" tubing
(I have gotten these parts from different sources, some are new, and some are used, if this is odd)

My first WC setup BTW.

Attached image looks like hell, hope you get a idea what I'm trying to get opinions about smile.gif

Do I get less resistance from the loop if I tube it like in the picture?

Gpu block is more restrictive right? So the waterflow would stream faster over the cpu block than the gpu that might result in poor cooling?

The radiator would get 3 output threads if this is a good idea, 2 output and 1 fill port.

Thanks for all advice you could provide and attention smile.gif

This would not provide you any benefit. As long as your loops flow is > 1GPM (3.78 LPM) your loop will cool to maximum. Martin did a bunch of testing that showed under 1 GPM will degrade your cooling performance pretty quickly, but over 1 GPM has marginal improvement in cooling.

If you want to have that Rad made, great, but just put it inline serial with the rest of the components. Splitting the flow might actually decrease your flow over one of the components as the water will take the path of least resistance.
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by NorxMAL;12682369 
I want silent operation, like that I can turn off the fans and make the radiator passive cooled?

You should look at an external radiator made for passive like this one:

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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gZ91llsbVc[/ame]
post #7 of 16
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I have gotten a price estimate about the custom radiator, and I think I can get the price lowered a bit with some alterations to the plans.

The price is not that bad, if I were to compare it with 2x 3x120mm(46mm tall) including fittings. This is a rig I plan to reuse when I rebuild a new computer.

Can the radiator of this size be used passively cooled when the computer is not in use (with help of a auto fan controller with added circuit to it).

Or is there no real benefit here even if I were to get more gpu's and such?

(Edit) I also plan to overclock too, and that I want the case to look quite nice smile.gif
Edited by NorxMAL - 3/10/11 at 11:20am
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by NorxMAL;12682632 
I have gotten a price estimate about the custom radiator, and I think I can get the price lowered a bit with some alterations to the plans.

The price is not that bad, if I were to compare it with 2x 3x120mm(46mm tall) including fittings. This is a rig I plan to reuse when I rebuild a new computer.

Can the radiator of this size be used passively cooled when the computer is not in use (with help of a auto fan controller with added circuit to it).

Or is there no real benefit here even if I were to get more gpu's and such?

How is it passive if you have an auto fan controller? Any rad can cool some passively, but are horribly inefficient that way. They are designed to have fans moving air through their fins. Only rads, like the one I linked, are specially designed to take advantage of convection and radiation to cool the water without fans. But even that one says if you have a fan blowing across it you more than double the cooling power.

There are plenty of fan controllers out there for PC's that will automatically start and stop fans based on temp. if you are trying to balance sound with load. If you want to get really fancy you can get something like:
aquaero5_xt-remote.jpg
It can control pumps, fans, LED's, Cathods, ect. all automatically. I just ordered one myself smile.gif
post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 
What is the name of the devices depicted? smile.gif

But is perhaps http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p9272_Phobya-Xtreme-200.html enough for my needs, and perhaps making a shroud that makes the two 230mm fans pull the air through it? tongue.gif

I really appreciate your feedback smile.gif I am totally new to this, and I also want to do some subtle case modding too, which I am also new to smile.gif
post #10 of 16
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Decided to go for EK CoolStream RAD XTC (420) 3x140mm and single loop, I hope that is a good decision smile.gif I will have it by tomorrow.
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