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Subcommittee Republicans pushed through the resolution[pdf] despite statements from AT&T and the National Cable and Telecommunications Association saying they could live with the rules. AT&T would prefer no net neutrality regulations, but the rules passed by the FCC Dec. 21 represent a better solution than an earlier FCC proposal to impose additional common-carrier regulations, said James Cicconi, AT&T's senior executive vice president for external and legislative affairs.

The FCC's net neutrality rules are consistent with AT&T's business practices, Cicconi said. "We do think it's a reasonable middle ground," he said.

Net neutrality rules are needed to allow small businesses to use the Web without interference from broadband providers, said Robin Chase, co-founder of car-sharing service Zipcar. An open Internet was essential to Zipcar's success, she said.
Always someone, or a group of people, in the US that don't want citizens having 'something'. I know OCN is not a political forum, but this NN issue effects all Net users. We need to be aware of this issue. We need to be on the front lines defending Net Neutrality!
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Ibtb/

Anyways, I think the net is a crappy place for most people, poor quality, high prices. Lots of idiots rubbing epeens.
Edited by Maelthras - 3/10/11 at 11:42am
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Ibtb/

Anyways, I think the net is a crappy place for most people, poor quality, high prices. Lots of idiots rubbing epeens.
Reads like being out in public!
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I'm torn on this issue. I support neutrality 100%, however, I want minimal government regulation of the internet.

I think people should boycott ISPs that aggressively throttle things like torrents or video streaming. Just because it might be legal for an ISP to limit bandwidth doesn't mean they all will.

EDIT: I think it would actually be an advantage for some ISPs to actively advertise that they are indeed neutral in their bandwidth allocations.

Giving the government control over something is always a double edged sword.
    
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I absolutely agree. To top it off, you have unelected people in these positions trying to pass laws and legislation for the entire country. So wrong. Government agencies can be a very dangerous and slippery slope. Power and control can be exerted over the people all in the name of protection. While I agree that big corporations need to be held accountable, I never ever ever feel comfortable when an entity that the government has created starts passing edicts.
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Giving the government control over something is always a double edged sword.
Regulation and control are not the same thing. The government isn't trying to take "control" of the internet, it's just setting some ground rules to make sure everyone plays fair. I'm not sure I see the double edged sword here.....

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I absolutely agree. To top it off, you have unelected people in these positions trying to pass laws and legislation for the entire country. So wrong. Government agencies can be a very dangerous and slippery slope. Power and control can be exerted over the people all in the name of protection. While I agree that big corporations need to be held accountable, I never ever ever feel comfortable when an entity that the government has created starts passing edicts.

Regulation of things like the internet is exactly the place where having unelected experts makes sense. The vast majority of people want the same thing, a healthy, inexpensive, robust, and fast internet. The difference of opinion isn't on what the goal is, but how to achieve it.

It doesn't make sense for policy like that to be a popularity contest, pick experts that really know what they're talking about, and let them make choices free from political pressure.
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I'm torn on this issue. I support neutrality 100%, however, I want minimal government regulation of the internet.

I think people should boycott ISPs that aggressively throttle things like torrents or video streaming. Just because it might be legal for an ISP to limit bandwidth doesn't mean they all will.

EDIT: I think it would actually be an advantage for some ISPs to actively advertise that they are indeed neutral in their bandwidth allocations.

Giving the government control over something is always a double edged sword.
In NoWhere, like most places there are a total of 2 ISPs. Both suck. One being Time-Warner which wants NN dead-is automatically not an option.

Boycotts are all well and good...except for when there is no choice in who supplies a service. Then they are at best unrealistic in getting desired changes.
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The only problem with this whole "net-neutrality" bills trying to be passed is there as about net-neutral as the patriot-act is a patriot.

This bill is and has been about taking control of the internet from day one. It goes hand in hand with Obama's kill switch bill.

If you can't see they are trying to take over the internet then you are blind to the broader spectrum.

They want everyone to use internet id cards to track everyone and on top of that control the content you are allowed to view.

Any legislation or regulation passed to prohibit something being done on the internet will stifle progress. Once you start putting regulations in place for one thing it opens the flood gates for others to follow right behind.

And what's more scary is people buying into the propaganda of it being passed for "your safety" and other nonsense.

Yes I do agree we need to do away with these duopolies in the majority of these areas. But there are reasons why it's a duopoly as it is now, and that's BECAUSE OF REGULATION AND LEGISLATION being passed in favor of the largest corporations to eliminate their competition, done through lobbying.

This bill does nothing to promote or excel progress in the technology fields whatsoever. And should never be passed.
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Who let the crazy troll into the thread, now he's going to start talking about computers having souls and aliens.
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Who let the crazy troll into the thread, now he's going to start talking about computers having souls and aliens.
hehehe, whatever gets my ping down is what I vote for... if that means flying a NN flag so be it...
 
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