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Originally Posted by KusH View Post
The only problem with this whole "net-neutrality" bills trying to be passed is there as about net-neutral as the patriot-act is a patriot.

This bill is and has been about taking control of the internet from day one. It goes hand in hand with Obama's kill switch bill.

If you can't see they are trying to take over the internet then you are blind to the broader spectrum.

They want everyone to use internet id cards to track everyone and on top of that control the content you are allowed to view.

Any legislation or regulation passed to prohibit something being done on the internet will stifle progress. Once you start putting regulations in place for one thing it opens the flood gates for others to follow right behind.

And what's more scary is people buying into the propaganda of it being passed for "your safety" and other nonsense.

Yes I do agree we need to do away with these duopolies in the majority of these areas. But there are reasons why it's a duopoly as it is now, and that's BECAUSE OF REGULATION AND LEGISLATION being passed in favor of the largest corporations to eliminate their competition, done through lobbying.

This bill does nothing to promote or excel progress in the technology fields whatsoever. And should never be passed.
Seconded. (Can't find Scruffy pic ) The rest of you need to do some looking into what the FCC is actually doing, not what the say they are doing.
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post #12 of 21
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however, I want minimal government regulation of the internet....Giving the government control over something is always a double edged sword.

While I don't really trust the bloated, quivering mass infesting DC any more than you do, sometimes we have no other choice. We need some measure of authority ready to billy club the ISPs. If we don't have such an authority they will screw us over. They've proven this time and again.

The government was put there with the interest of the commoner, IE you and me, at heart. It's about time the government does something in our interest, even if it's just to protect our right to torrent legal things at the speed we pay for.
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While I don't really trust the bloated, quivering mass infesting DC any more than you do, sometimes we have no other choice. We need some measure of authority ready to billy club the ISPs. If we don't have such an authority they will screw us over. They've proven this time and again.

The government was put there with the interest of the commoner, IE you and me, at heart. It's about time the government does something in our interest, even if it's just to protect our right to torrent legal things at the speed we pay for.
Only one problem, lobbying.

Things won't change unless the mind numbed public gets pissed off or if lobbying is abolished. Until then, we will continue to see more and more abuse of the system in favor of corporate amerika.
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So is net-neutrality good or bad? I forget.
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So is net-neutrality good or bad? I forget.
Depends on who you are.

A) If you're a consumer of internet content it is good.

B) If you're an ISP it is bad, because NN forces you to actually invest in improving your lacking infrastructure. Throttling to reduce usage (thus freeing bandwidth) can be done with no expense in material or manpower. Infrastructure however costs money.
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Depends on who you are.

A) If you're a consumer of internet content it is good.

B) If you're an ISP it is bad, because NN forces you to actually invest in improving your lacking infrastructure. Throttling to reduce usage (thus freeing bandwidth) can be done with no expense in material or manpower. Infrastructure however costs money.
Lol yea i find it funny in the article they say this quoted below but thats the exact opp of what will happen if they kill the NN. If a isp is allowed to block or thottle whatever they want then they wont need to upgrade or maintain their network just block the stuff that consumes more bandwith. You know theirs tons of companys filling these guys pockets to try to get this killed phone companys hate skype and retail stores hate netflix along with alot of others that make less money the more users spend on digital materials.


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But net neutrality rules will hurt both broadband providers and Web application providers, by discouraging network investment, said Anna-Maria Kovacs, an investment analyst with Strategic Choices. "Far more devastating to Google, Skype and Netflix than being charged for transport is an Internet whose evolution and capacity are flash-frozen for lack of investment," she said. "Their innovative applications can only follow a step behind the network's capacity and quality."

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post #18 of 21
This is how I see it:

Who do you want to rule the internet? Big business so they can charge you an arm and a leg for whatever they want, or the government so they can do whatever they'd like with that control?
 
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Originally Posted by TheRockMonsi View Post
This is how I see it:

Who do you want to rule the internet? Big business so they can charge you an arm and a leg for whatever they want, or the government so they can do whatever they'd like with that control?
Hmm

Pay for more

or

Let the governemtn spy on you, wait they are doing that now so....

Go for the government.
Though I wish it was as simple as that: Don't know if the govvy might doing some content filtering and would really annoy me.
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post #20 of 21
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Only one problem, lobbying.

Things won't change unless the mind numbed public gets pissed off or if lobbying is abolished. Until then, we will continue to see more and more abuse of the system in favor of corporate amerika.
The problem is the American political structure itself how its passes bill and the check balanced system. Its pretty much impossible to pass a bill in the US because the upper house and the lower house are always in a grid lock while if you look at countries like France and UK most of the power reside in one branch. Lobbying is much harder in the UK political system.
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