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212 mounted horizontally blowing air downwards
Horizontally but downwards?
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Maybe I'll put a 140mm on the bottom as intake? How about this? I don't want to deliver hoe air to my video card though.The rear exhaust may not be necessary either. If I put the heatsink fan facing up against the intake that's no good right? Maybe a side fan for the GPU? Do you have to unplug the fan each time you take the side off?



+ Rep for someone who can draw me out a picture and explain to me why it would work. I plan on only using CM fans though
Okay bud...here's the deal...

Hot air rises while cold air sinks. You want any fans at the top of your case to be exhaust. This gets all the hot air out. The rear fan will exhaust the hot air from your CPU cooler. Your side intake fans will bring in the cooler ambient temp air to go inside (if you use both the slots) for your CPU cooler and video card. Also, you have the front intake pulling in cold air and if you mount another 120mm fan at the bottom of your case, you'll have one blowing cold air up towards the video card.

Also, why are you planning on only using CM fans? The case only comes with 2 x 140mm and 1 x 120mm fans which are already in the best configuration possible. If you're going to have to purchase more fans, might as well get really decent fans.
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If you're going to have to purchase more fans, might as well get really decent fans.
True but which ones? I like to keep em cheap.
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As for fans I would say something good and cheap like medium speed yate loons would yield the most value for the price.

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Okay bud...here's the deal...

Hot air rises while cold air sinks. You want any fans at the top of your case to be exhaust. This gets all the hot air out. The rear fan will exhaust the hot air from your CPU cooler. Your side intake fans will bring in the cooler ambient temp air to go inside (if you use both the slots) for your CPU cooler and video card. Also, you have the front intake pulling in cold air and if you mount another 120mm fan at the bottom of your case, you'll have one blowing cold air up towards the video card.

Also, why are you planning on only using CM fans? The case only comes with 2 x 140mm and 1 x 120mm fans which are already in the best configuration possible. If you're going to have to purchase more fans, might as well get really decent fans.
Like I said previously it's typically counterintuitive to have the top to and back as intake instead of exhaust. However when considering the hottest portion of the computer is the GPU and NB area in day to day operations, it's not hard to imagine to not have hot air rise and warm up ambient temperature near the cpu cooler. I've done a lot of cooling scheme testing with the original 690 and my original suggestion had the coolest most consistent result across cpu, mobo, gpu, and hd temps.
    
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As for fans I would say something good and cheap like medium speed yate loons would yield the most value for the price.



Like I said previously it's typically counterintuitive to have the top to and back as intake instead of exhaust. However when considering the hottest portion of the computer is the GPU and NB area in day to day operations, it's not hard to imagine to not have hot air rise and warm up ambient temperature near the cpu cooler. I've done a lot of cooling scheme testing with the original 690 and my original suggestion had the coolest most consistent result across cpu, mobo, gpu, and hd temps.
A lot of your statement is speculation. In my case, all of my components idle around the same temp. Even then, the hot air from my GPU rises through my case. I'd rather have my fans pulling that hot air out than pushing it back down into the CPU and GPU.

In the end, it's all about PERSONAL trial and error. The way it's listed by the manufacturer works perfectly for my uses and keeps my temps low and the air temperature inside my case as close to ambient as possible. Also, keep in mind that he hasn't said anything about what GPU he is going to use but wants to know the best way to keep his temps cool on his CPU.

So OP, pick one, try it and then try the other, see which one you like.

Also as far as fans go, the 140mm Yate Loons are great. If you're going for 120mm fans, I love the Yate 120 High Speed fans but also the Scythe S-Flex G's are really good. The Yates tend to be the best bang for your buck as they sleeve bearing.
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Well, like you said it's personal trial and error. I've personally tried many different configurations with it. It's not just speculation. With similar ambient temps, same cpu and GPU, I've tried many different configs. Having cool air from the top blowing downwards to the hottest portion of the computer than having a high pressure fan blowing air from there to the side gave me much better temps. Of course it's not statistically tested to prove that it is purely due to the configuration, however it did consistently gave me cooler temps afterwards.

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Where is the best place to buy some Yates that will ship to Canada I was looking at performancepcs.com. Where is a good place to sell my case fans, besides the LED one that is.
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Where is the best place to buy some Yates that will ship to Canada I was looking at performancepcs.com. Where is a good place to sell my case fans, besides the LED one that is.
I don't know what province you are in, but Direct Canada has some good prices on fans, so does NCIX, which will price match Direct Canada.
http://www.directcanada.com/category...&vendorid=1113
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?minorcatid=1164
NCIX does list a few Yate Loons, in addition to the other brands.
Personally, I have been using Coolermaster fans for years in my cases, I haven't had much luck with the Yates I tried but I know they make good fans as well. This is strictly for case fans though, as the Coolermaster fans are inexpensive and adequate for that use. For cpu and gpu cooling I use better, but much pricier fans.

My two bits for fan placement in my 690II, what works best for me:
The psu fan facing down to pull in cool outside air.
The cpu cooler pulling in air from the front to back.
One CM 140mm fan as intake on the bottom of the case directly beside the psu.
One CM 140mm fan in the front of the case raised to it's uppermost spot (removed the bottom hd cage), as intake.
One CM 120mm fan mounted above that in the front of the case with a fan bay holder, as intake.
One CM 140mm fan mounted in the top of the case at the back above the cpu cooler, blowing out.
One CM 120mm fan on the back of the case blowing out.

No side fans, I tried one in my CM windowed 690II side panel but it just disrupted the airflow.
Edited by DerComissar - 3/12/11 at 9:16am
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Thanks a ton for the help guys! I just removed these, hopefully selling them and then using the money towards some Yates



For sale if anybody is interested
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Is it worth replacing all fans with yates?
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