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And yet the pirated copies go unaffected.
Lawl.
Pirates = 1

People who spent their hard earned money = 0

Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me.
We pillage plunder, we rifle and loot.
Drink up me 'earties, yo ho.
We kidnap and ravage and don't give a hoot.
Drink up me 'earties, yo ho.

Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me.
We extort and pilfer, we filch and sack.
Drink up me 'earties, yo ho.
Maraud and embezzle and even highjack.
Drink up me 'earties, yo ho.
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post #92 of 151
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Even so, you should not be banned from games YOU purchased.
And what if he cheats online with the games he purchased? You think the company should stand by idlely and tolerate it? I'm not saying he did, but you can't say that "he can do whatever with his software" when it affects other people.

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And what if EA said that he did X,Y,Z. How do we know THEY aren't lying?
That's a good question. But then why give him the benefit of the doubt on what he's saying, and not EA?

I'm not saying what EA did was right or wrong, I'm just saying, don't lambast them without knowing both sides.
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And what if he cheats online with the games he purchased? You think the company should stand by idlely and tolerate it? I'm not saying he did, but you can't say that "he can do whatever with his software" when it affects other people.
He should not be banned from playing his game that he bought even if he cheats online. He should be banned from playing online, but he should not be banned from playing the game. Big difference.


I think is has gotten blown out of proportion, EA banned the email from their system. The person in question tried to use that email to activate a game, which is banned from the system.

Should EA allow him to activate the game, maybe. He might also want to use a different account then the forum account.

Two problems, one solution.
1.) Use a different email to activate the game.
2.) Use a different email to log into the forums.
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He should not be banned from playing his game that he bought even if he cheats online. He should be banned from playing online, but he should not be banned from playing the game. Big difference.
Ah, I would agree with that.

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I think is has gotten blown out of proportion, EA banned the email from their system. The person in question tried to use that email to activate a game, which is banned from the system.

Should EA allow him to activate the game, maybe. He might also want to use a different account then the forum account.

Two problems, one solution.
1.) Use a different email to activate the game.
2.) Use a different email to log into the forums.
Interesting. So there IS more than meet's the eye. Like I said, people are too quick to jump to conclusions. Thanks for the info.
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Except if people keep pushing this issue, game companies will just declare you never own any game ever. You're just paying us for a license to use said game as we see fit.
That's already how software works. Everyone here can shout at the top of their lungs "IT'S MY GAME!!!" all they want...no, actually it's not. You own a license.

But that doesn't mean that, as a paying consumer, you are without rights. And what rights can be written into a EULA and subsequently enforced is the discussion to be had here.

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He should not be banned from playing his game that he bought even if he cheats online. He should be banned from playing online, but he should not be banned from playing the game. Big difference.
True, this is exactly where the middle ground needs to be for cheating offenses. When you cheat online, you're hurting others; and preventing you from doing so again is the only way to bring fairness back to those players, and in fact keep confidence that the online service isn't a train wreck. But cheating when you're playing by yourself is, I guess, no one's business but your own.

But at least in the OP, I thought this was about negative forum posts. Banning from online play because you have the temerity to say something negative in a public forum is over the line, IMHO. (Again, I did not read the whole thread...if it has come to light that this guy is a known cheater, then maybe I'm discussing a moot point here.)
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but preventing someone from playing their game because of a forum post?
Yep.

I told some guy off in the EA BC2 forums (to be fair their forums are a hair away from being 4chan), and because I was stupid and tied the forum account to my BC2 account, I was given a 72 hour forum and game ban.

I proceeded to call their support line and tell them off.

I can understand the forum ban, but the game ban is ridiculous. I learned my lesson. Not to not flame people on their forums, but not to tie my forum and game accounts.
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That's already how software works. Everyone here can shout at the top of their lungs "IT'S MY GAME!!!" all they want...no, actually it's not. You own a license.

But that doesn't mean that, as a paying consumer, you are without rights. And what rights can be written into a EULA and subsequently enforced is the discussion to be had here.



True, this is exactly where the middle ground needs to be for cheating offenses. When you cheat online, you're hurting others; and preventing you from doing so again is the only way to bring fairness back to those players, and in fact keep confidence that the online service isn't a train wreck. But cheating when you're playing by yourself is, I guess, no one's business but your own.

But at least in the OP, I thought this was about negative forum posts. Banning from online play because you have the temerity to say something negative in a public forum is over the line, IMHO. (Again, I did not read the whole thread...if it has come to light that this guy is a known cheater, then maybe I'm discussing a moot point here.)
Always Makes me smile when people who can construct arguments post on forums.Feels like a person wearing a Tux to a rave

OT: EA, please please stop giving people reasons to pirate your games.
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Except if people keep pushing this issue, game companies will just declare you never own any game ever. You're just paying us for a license to use said game as we see fit.

Either way the end-user loses.
They already say this.
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I remember in the early days of BC2, I complained on the forums and recieved a 72 ban from the game.

If you are going to complain, use a different account on the forums
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And what if he cheats online with the games he purchased? You think the company should stand by idlely and tolerate it? I'm not saying he did, but you can't say that "he can do whatever with his software" when it affects other people.



That's a good question. But then why give him the benefit of the doubt on what he's saying, and not EA?

I'm not saying what EA did was right or wrong, I'm just saying, don't lambast them without knowing both sides.
Like others have said, only the online part of the game should be disabled, not the whole game, You still purchased the game content which in most cases will include a single player mode. Being banned from that also is way out of line.

Its scary to think that what a consumer buys that they still have no particular rights to what they have bought, at least that is what EA is portraying to me.
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