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I really do love listening to music, and I have music on almost constantly. I also do love owning the best of the best, even if it is over kill. I am in no way a sound expert but when it comes to the best of the best, things in that category that are aimed at appealing the 5 senses are the best of the best of the best tongue.gif If I can get my jollies off having a WR cpu and SLI 580's and blah blah, essentially stuff that doesn't really appeal to the senses...I know I would cream my pants listening to the setups you guys have.

My only hold back, is the format my music comes in. It only exists in mp3, usually about 192kbps, up to 320kbps. However I don't know if that matters when its a compressed file.
It is mainly electronic dance music, and being that it normally has heavy bass lines. I am not looking for thundering bass, but I do want clear very distinguished proper lows.

So my question is, if I start to get into this scene will I just be let down by my music in the end?
Is the money I spend worth it, or will I only have marginal gains?

Another question I have, is how comfortable are these higher end headphones after long periods of time? Every other cheap head phone I've worn for over an hour starts to agitate my ear and the surrounding area.
Or should I not even go head phones, because I really think I'd rather have a good set of speakers.

I've switched back to using my NAD 7130 Stereo Receiver, is this of any value to a mid to hi-fi setup?

I also game a considerable amount, but I think I'll continue to use my MTX TP112 speakers because of the thundering bass of explosions and just the intensity they provide for gaming.


Before I start doing all the research on what type of setup I can get for what I can afford and what to get specifically for what I want...I just need to know it will be worth it...and headphones or speakers?
I would be looking at about a $250-300 budget to start off to dable into it and see how I enjoy it. Like most things I get into though, I will probably keep pushing it.
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A good hi fi setup will make you DESPISE your mp3s. It happened with me. My stereo costed me the double of the original planned money because I went on ebay and mass-buyed a crapload of my favorite cds, simply because they were unhearable with the new setup.
     
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Originally Posted by SHNS0;12691293 
A good hi fi setup will make you DESPISE your mp3s. It happened with me. My stereo costed me the double of the original planned money because I went on ebay and mass-buyed a crapload of my favorite cds, simply because they were unhearable with the new setup.

That is what I'm worried about :/ sounds like there really is no hope for me.

Damn, that sucks. I don't even want to spend the money if its going to just amplify the poor quality of mp3
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That is what I'm worried about :/ sounds like there really is no hope for me.

Damn, that sucks. I don't even want to spend the money if its going to just amplify the poor quality of mp3

You should buy some Logitechs. They are powerful but their sound quality isn't enough to let you hear such a ENORMOUS difference between a mp3 and a flac.
I spent like 350€ for my setup (it's an entry level, I'm no audiophile... yet) and it really was worth every cent. Games from both PC and PS3 sound AMAZING and I can't imagine going back.
Why don't you give it a try? Judging by your rig, you have enough money to buy some cds, even used tongue.gif
     
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I wouldn't ever get music that only came in lossy formats...what kind of artist or band doesn't put out a proper cd or make lossless available?
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Because these are live sets mainly that I listen to. I really doubt I could replace even one of my 200gb collection with something other than mp3.
Its electronic dance music, it started its life on a computer, was compiled on a computer, played on a computer, then captured on one.

Try finding Gabriel & Dresden Live @ SSL Maximal 16-06-2006 for me, its one of my favorite sets.
Or a studio recorded show, Kiss100 Transitions with John Digweed guest mix Ben Watt 5-5-2008
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Originally Posted by fl0w3n;12694856 
Because these are live sets mainly that I listen to. I really doubt I could replace even one of my 200gb collection with something other than mp3.

Yeah, if you are listening to recorded live sets or something then odds are good they'll only be available in mp3 :/
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Its electronic dance music, it started its life on a computer, was compiled on a computer, played on a computer, then captured on one.

That doesn't mean artists only release mp3s?
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Try finding Gabriel & Dresden Live @ SSL Maximal 16-06-2006 for me, its one of my favorite sets.
Or a studio recorded show, Kiss100 Transitions with John Digweed guest mix Ben Watt 5-5-2008

My primary source for radio/netradio/livesets is TMB, and I did find both of those available there...but I'd need to request a reseed on the Gabriel & Dresden set.
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Because these are live sets mainly that I listen to. I really doubt I could replace even one of my 200gb collection with something other than mp3.
Its electronic dance music, it started its life on a computer, was compiled on a computer, played on a computer, then captured on one.

Try finding Gabriel & Dresden Live @ SSL Maximal 16-06-2006 for me, its one of my favorite sets.
Or a studio recorded show, Kiss100 Transitions with John Digweed guest mix Ben Watt 5-5-2008

All that sort of music is normally created at very high frequencies/bitrates. You know how if you start with a JPEG, edit it, and then save it as a JPEG again, you lose quality? Do it enough times and it ends up looking like total crap.

Same with audio. You can start with a perfectly clean track, but once you start applying filters and effects to it, the less resolution you have to work with the worse it ends up sounding. Artists have to work at much higher bit depths and sampling frequencies so that the final product can come out clean. Just because the music is born and spends its life on a computer, that doesn't mean that it's going to be MP3 quality the whole way through.


And P.S: Even with techno/dance music I can tell the difference between flac and mp3 immediately.
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Yeah, if you are listening to recorded live sets or something then odds are good they'll only be available in mp3 :/



That doesn't mean artists only release mp3s?



My primary source for radio/netradio/livesets is TMB, and I did find both of those available there...but I'd need to request a reseed on the Gabriel & Dresden set.

Yeah that is probably 95% of the EDM I have. I have other music, but for some reason I haven't been able to get back into enjoying other music besides EDM for the past few years.

The artists I enjoy have released CD's of their tracks, but that is not really what I'm after. The songs on those CD's I've heard too many times, and what I really enjoy is hearing another DJ take some ones song and putting their own spin on it, or just the uniqueness they come up with in an hour of them playing specifically for some one or an event.

What is TMB? And you found those two sets in something other than .mp3??
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All that sort of music is normally created at very high frequencies/bitrates. You know how if you start with a JPEG, edit it, and then save it as a JPEG again, you lose quality? Do it enough times and it ends up looking like total crap.

Same with audio. You can start with a perfectly clean track, but once you start applying filters and effects to it, the less resolution you have to work with the worse it ends up sounding. Artists have to work at much higher bit depths and sampling frequencies so that the final product can come out clean. Just because the music is born and spends its life on a computer, that doesn't mean that it's going to be MP3 quality the whole way through.


And P.S: Even with techno/dance music I can tell the difference between flac and mp3 immediately.

Ah yeah that was what I was implying, I know some DJ's even just USE mp3 when they are playing live. An mp3 being used to play live, then recorded with a microphone, I don't think it gets any worse than that. redface.gif
The creator of Function1 sound systems won't let any DJ's that use mp3 play on his systems lol


If I could get them in flac, that would be awesome. I've never really tried, because I just assumed it wasn't possible. I suppose I would be happy with 25% of my collection converted to flac?
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Check out http://bt.etree.org/ it is blocked at my work so I can't see it. But I have found some good stuff here
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