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Wait, how is that NOT a huge performance increase?? You usually only get a +25% performance upgrade when switching to a vastly more expensive video card. You just got that boost by switching drivers.
re-read the thread please...nvm, here it is for you...


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I didn't do the math in my head on that one, I was pretty burnt out from work. lol I take back my previous statement of "not a huge increase"
    
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Tell ATI to fix the drivers... I cannot isntall anything above 10.10e...
 
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Tell ATI to fix the drivers... I cannot isntall anything above 10.10e...
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Nothing? There's one glaring issue right now with the latest drivers: Hover over Minimize/Maximize/Close and your cursor lags.

That's one big issue right there.
I've never had that with any AMD drivers ever, hell, even on Linux I never had that issue and AMD GPU + Linux = More of a mess than CoD.

Tone down your memory, CPU and GPU overclock and see if it still happens, a lot of "driver problems" came from people running an unstable OC they didn't properly stress.

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just wait until you encounter problems, if you do not, you're incredibly lucky. After having some problems in the past myself I do not always go "user error" when I hear about driver issues.
I had a HD4890, I put in a 9800GT (Without reinstalling Windows, mind you) as my main GPU and then later got HD4890 CFX with two screens (One of the most buggy set ups apparently) with the same Windows install.

I got no bugs.

Now, either I'm extremely lucky, or a lot of the drivers do come down to PEBKAC.

Hell, I've gotten more nVidia issues than ATI and all those problems could be traced to lowering my CPU or RAM overclock.

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For me I thought 11.2 was fine with my 6850 but was having issues with my 5450. Turns out that I was wrong; the issue wasn't with the 5450 drivers but my USB hub instead.
Perfect example of PEBKAC.

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I thought the 6 series was a sidegrade?
Never was? HD6870 is around the same as a HD5870 if I recall correctly but HD6970 is an upgrade.

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Tell ATI to fix the drivers... I cannot isntall anything above 10.10e...
What error? What problems? etc
Give us information.
And try it with your CPU/RAM at stock, just in case.
    
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Ehh, sounds like alot of bs.
Ill take BS if it improves my FPS.
    
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If this is true, I dont think the 580 will be the fastest single gpu card anymore.
    
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Hmmmm... Just a thought.

If new drivers can improve the cards that much, doesn't it just mean the original drivers were utter cow poo?

I don't condone this "release good hardware, with unfinished drivers".
Hardware and drivers go hand-in-hand.
That's like a completely unfinished product.

Very sneaky AMD. I don't like.
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Hmmmm... Just a thought.

If new drivers can improve the cards that much, doesn't it just mean the original drivers were utter cow poo?

I don't condone this "release good hardware, with unfinished drivers".
Hardware and drivers go hand-in-hand.
That's like a completely unfinished product.

Very sneaky AMD. I don't like.
Who cares. Performance is performance. I don't care if I have to harvest orphan tears....if it gets me better FPS in games at higher resolutions and better textures I am all for it.
    
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I got no bugs.

Now, either I'm extremely lucky, or a lot of the drivers do come down to PEBKAC.
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You guys provide an endless form of entertainment.

There's nothing wrong with the drivers, 98% of issues are complete PEBKAC.
I think most ATi users referring to bad drivers were the atrocious 5850/5870/5970 support through 9.9 ~ 10.3. I know I couldn't play many games (if any) the first quarter of 2010 as I purchased my first 5870 that January. Every day was grey stripes & artifacts, BSOD, CTD, and wonderful "ATIKMDAG.SYS has been recovered issue". It was worse for some people, as they had those issues from September 2009. That kind of time length makes people very bitter.

I believe the issue for us was that the 2D Clocks and Voltages both would get stuck in PowerSave, immediately causing artifacts in 3D games. Sometimes it was just the voltages, other times it was just the clocks not rising.

It was primarily weeded out via idle voltages in driver profiles or vBios updates. I remember going through 3 or 4 vBios's myself on my primary GPU before it would work good by itself and custom profiles edited by XML for raising the stock idle clocks / voltage.

CrossfireX only compounded many of these issues further, even after ATi thought they had fixed them for single GPU users. Around 10.4/10.5 Catalyst drivers, everything seemed to smooth out, I was able to play some games, but realized that I wanted more performance. I purchased a brand new 5870 right there and then.

I was so hopeful for this awesome performance, only to find BSOD and CTD and a variety of errors and artifacts I had faced for the last four months. I primarily played with a single GPU despite having paid for two, till about Catalyst release 10.9/10.10. You can imagine how I felt after that. It was enough for me to never want ATI/AMD GPUs ever again.

From everything I have seen from the 68xx/69xx launches, you guys have had one hell of a smoother ride than we did. There are a vast number of people who are trapped on driver set 10.5 or 10.9 Catalyst due to BSOD on installing some of the newer drivers and artifacting in between those two sets.

So please have some respect for those, who were not having PEBKAC issues, many of whom are still using those very same cards. There were thousands of us in ATi's old Catalyst Feedback forum desperately trying to help each other to fix this, as there was no official support except from a snippety moderator named Spyre, who was about as useful as punctured artery.

On Topic:
Cheers ATi Users, I hope you get 1000% percent of performance gains, some of you really deserve it after all the patience.
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i got a 2.9% increase in 3dMark 11
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