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I have a 1080 and 360 rad and was looking for a solution to have them both be used to their full potential without having to dissipate heat dump of different components and just providing them with cool water

Here the idea that would enable me to provide the CPU and GPU´s with the full cooling ability of both my 1080 and 360 rad ,could still seperate the heat dump and would not require me to get a second pump or resevoir.
In a dual loop I would have to choose which block gets the 1080 rad and in a single loop the heat dump would disable me of getting the best temps and max dissipation.

So here is my plan to do it:

My 360 rad (Phobya G Changer 1.2) has 4 ports I hope I can just use 1 as inlet and two as outlet.The idea is to use this like a T-Line just with a rad..meaning less restriction.
I thought if I aligned the loop like this:


Res ->pump->1080 rad->360rad ->
....one outlet for the GPU->Res
.....one outlet for the CPU->Res

For better understanding:The water from the res will go through the pump first through the 1080 and then the 360 rad...because the 360 rad has 4 ports that hopefully can be used as outlets and inlets individually ...I will let one outlet go through the CPU block and the other outlet through the GPU blocks....and both will exhaust into the Res.This way the heat dump of either will not affect each other,flowrate will be awwwwwwesome and both can benefit from the full potential of the 1080 + 360 rad.

I think this kind of setup should beat the temps a single loop with this config(res->pump->360->cpu->1080->gpu->res) would deilver right?


Only thing I am not sure about ..if it is even possible to have 2 outlets and 1 inlet on that radiator hope you can advise^^.
http://www.aquatuning.at/product_inf...1-2-Black.html


Cool idea though right?
Edited by Kung Pow - 3/11/11 at 3:13pm
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post #2 of 36
Whenever you split a loop, the flow along the more restrictive path will decrease. You might have issues because of this. I doubt there would be much of a difference in temperatures compared to a regular loop anyway.

EDIT: After a re-read, you have your blocks isolated by your radiators. I'd bet there would be no discernable difference.

But, hey, it's a learning experience and there really isn't much risk, so why not?
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A 1080 rad?
I demand a picture.
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A 1080 rad?
I demand a picture.
same
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I'm guessing he means this

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Whenever you split a loop, the flow along the more restrictive path will decrease. You might have issues because of this. I doubt there would be much of a difference in temperatures compared to a regular loop anyway.

EDIT: After a re-read, you have your blocks isolated by your radiators. I'd bet there would be no discernable difference.

But, hey, it's a learning experience and there really isn't much risk, so why not?
I've thought about similar to this as well, running parallel loops on a single pump and sharing the rads, ideally though as t-ramp says you would need a way to control the flow to each at the point where it splits in order to balance it.
    
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I have a 1080 and 360 rad and was looking for a solution to have them both be used to their full potential without having to dissipate heat dump of different components and just providing them with cool water

Here the idea that would enable me to provide the CPU and GPU´s with the full cooling ability of both my 1080 and 360 rad ,could still seperate the heat dump and would not require me to get a second pump or resevoir.
In a dual loop I would have to choose which block gets the 1080 rad and in a single loop the heat dump would disable me of getting the best temps and max dissipation.

So here is my plan to do it:

My 360 rad (Phobya G Changer 1.2) has 4 ports I hope I can just use 1 as inlet and two as outlet.The idea is to use this like a T-Line just with a rad..meaning less restriction.
I thought if I aligned the loop like this:


Res ->pump->1080 rad->360rad ->
....one outlet for the GPU->Res
.....one outlet for the CPU->Res

For better understanding:The water from the res will go through the pump first through the 1080 and then the 360 rad...because the 360 rad has 4 ports that hopefully can be used as outlets and inlets individually ...I will let one outlet go through the CPU block and the other outlet through the GPU blocks....and both will exhaust into the Res.This way the heat dump of either will not affect each other and both can benefit from the full potential of the 1080 + 360 rad.

I think this kind of setup should beat the temps a single loop with this config(res->pump->360->cpu->1080->gpu->res) would deilver right?


Only thing I am not sure about ..if it is even possible to have 2 outlets and 1 inlet on that radiator hope you can advise^^.
http://www.aquatuning.at/product_inf...1-2-Black.html


Cool idea though right?


The basic idea behind this is if you chose for example a

1.)single loop the heat dump of both components additionally would have to be dissipated by the radiators which will not be dramatical because of my 1080 rad but it still could cost 1-2 degrees at full load.

2.)dual loop would not enable me to use the 1080 and 360 rads potential on all blocks because I would have to choose which one gets which rad.
Also the cost of the new pump and res is unapealing to me.

So my idea is like quoted to have a dual loop but still use the potential of a 1080 and 360 rad on both blocks without the heat dump decreasing the cooling ability and without having to get another res and pump.

My questions now:

a.)Will the restriction of such a loop be more than a normal single loop?
b.)Please re-read the quote to fully understand the concept and then tell me if it is possible to use just 1 inlet but two outlets on the raditor or better if the whole idea is pratically convertable.
c.)I think is is a really good idea using the rad as T-Line ..less restriction than with an actual T-Line and being able to use a 1080 and 360 rad on the CPU and GPU with minimum costs

Here the link to the rad:http://www.aquatuning.at/product_inf...1-2-Black.html

Thx in advance!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
a.)Will the restriction of such a loop be more than a normal single loop?
No, maybe even less because the water might not flow very well over the more restrictive route.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
b.)Please re-read the quote to fully understand the concept and then tell me if it is possible to use just 1 inlet but two outlets on the raditor or better if the whole idea is pratically convertable.
Yes, this would work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
c.)I think is is a really good idea using the rad as T-Line ..less restriction than with an actual T-Line and being able to use a 1080 and 360 rad on the CPU and GPU with minimum costs
There's really no point, and I highly doubt you would see any drop in temperatures. Heck, I'd bet they'd be higher. Just do this:

Quote:
res->pump->360->cpu->1080->gpu->res
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Total flow through a parallel loop will actually be better, and you can use Martin's flow rate calculator to ensure that the two loops have similar restriction.
    
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No, maybe even less because the water might not flow very well over the more restrictive route.
The CPU loop would have the Kryos which provides according to Vapor 1.25 GPM at medium pump setting.
What you say is that I will have less restriction on the CPU loop right?
So the flow should theoretically be better on the cpu and gpu loop.

Quote:
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There's really no point, and I highly doubt you would see any drop in temperatures. Heck, I'd bet they'd be higher. Just do this:
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Why do you think temps would be higher lol?
The fact that there is no heat dump and the full use of a 1080 + 360 rad on either the CPU and gpu block should give me even better temps than a normal single loop.
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