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Originally Posted by mega_option101 View Post
You're more likely to have acid rain from power plants burning fossil fuels than you are from this.
I'm pretty sure its not possible to have Acid rain from this as the plants as I am aware are not releasing any form of sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides, actually do Nuclear plants release any at all?
Also I'm guessing its possible for radiation to mix into rain.
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You could indeed have radiation rain if a significant amount of fallout was injected into the atmosphere, however there are no indications of any fallout or any radiation at all moving in the direction of the Philippines. I've been following meteorological reports since the story broke and the vast majority of the weather systems that have affected the site have been pushing the vapor released from the reactors eastward, toward the Pacific.
Edited by Lampen - 3/14/11 at 9:20am
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post #1093 of 2836
quotes from a fellow translator on reuters
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Rough notes from the CNIC press conference 3/14 that is just finishing.
Comments from Masashi Goto, former Toshiba Nuclear Power Plant Designer, who helped design the containment vessel for Fukushima's reactor core

Containment vessels are not invincible and are not an adequate final line of defence. The likelihood of an earthquake directly cracking the containment vessel is very low, but as we've seen, in a natural disaster like this there is great damage to multiple systems surrounding the vessel, which is supposed to be a final, invincible line of defence. it took this earthquake to make this more widely known.

With 7 active units in close proximity, what would the ramifications be if one of them suffered a total meltdown? People working on cooling other units could no longer continue to work.

Why was there a difference between the way the two explosions looked?
Can't say for certain but much larger amounts of hydrogen were released in #3 explosion. How much time has elapsed before hydrogen ignites also effects the severity of the explosion.

re: equating current radiation exposure to X-rays ...
There is a fundamental difference between being exposed for an instant, and radiation that clings to your body and your clothes and being exposed for long periods of time. it is not only the momentary levels that you are exposed to that we concerned with but also the amount of time exposed. Any comments that equate these levels of exposure
to X-rays should be made with great caution. There is no person alive that would expose the same part of their body to X-rays 3 times in a year. Radiation exposure has incremental effect. Every time you expose your body to X-rays you are increasing your level of risk.

I am skeptical as to whether the people in the government that are in charge have the technical expertise to understand what is happening and whether they have the courage to step up and give unpleasant news.
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A reactor meltdown and release of radio-active material won't cause acid rain. Radio-active material can emit alpha particles, beta particles and gamma rays. High energy electro-magnetic radiation such as gamma rays are the most dangerous and cause radiation burns. Ingested radio-active material is also very dangerous.
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Well, I knew all along that the plants wouldn't have caused any acid rain, if radiation is the main concern. I had to educate a few people that "Acidity != Radioactivity".

As for the situation in the Philippines, I'm pretty sure they have the areas hit by the tsunami covered. People've been sighing relief left and right, bogus chain messages still circulating, and government still not giving much of a damn.

It's actually unsettling, since I think they fail to realize that we very well may be next. We have a good bit of infrastructure built on artificial land, a good number of volcanoes and faults, and THE worst traffic routing and emergency disaster planning (if at all).

Edit: I'm out for now. I don't feel well, and yet I gotta be up at six. Keep rockin' OCN.
Edited by Toransu - 3/14/11 at 9:23am
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Well, I knew all along that the plants wouldn't have caused any acid rain, if radiation is the main concern. I had to educate a few people that "Acidity != Radioactivity".

As for the situation in the Philippines, I'm pretty sure they have the areas hit by the tsunami covered. People've been sighing relief left and right, bogus chain messages still circulating, and government still not giving much of a damn.

It's actually unsettling, since I think they fail to realize that we very well may be next. We have a good bit of infrastructure built on artificial land, a good number of volcanoes and faults, and THE worst traffic routing and emergency disaster planning (if at all).
Heh, you're in the Phils, bro? I'm originally from there and it's unnerving how our admittedly inferior emergency planning system would respond to such a domino effect of quakes, tsunamis and the possibility of a radiation cloud coming its way. We definitely would be in a far worse situation if a calamity of that magnitude were to happen, especially those in the Manila area.
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I just hope from all of this that the US doesn't decide to shut down our reactors because they are scared they will have a similar fate. It's already being talked about in the news. it's ridiculous. Just because something bad happens once every 40 years doesn't mean you stop doing it. Chances are a disaster like this will NEVER happen again. I guarantee all reactors that need it will be retrofitted to deal with a tsunami withing the next 5 years.

The truth is nuclear energy is a clean, SAFE, and very effective way of producing energy. If anything it should be implemented even further. The newer reactors in the US are FAR FAR more advanced than those in Japan.

People really need to get it together. There are hundreds of reactors running around the world, there have been 3 incidents since their implementation. You are more likely to die in a plane crash than be killed by a reactor.
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Press Release from TEPCO: At approximately 11:01am, an explosion followed by white smoke occurred
at the reactor building of Unit 3. It was believed to be a hydrogen
explosion.

According to the parameter, it is believed that the reactor containment
vessel remains intact. However, the status of the plant and the impact
of radioactive materials to the outside environment are presently under
investigation. (previously announced)

As of 1:30 pm, 4 TEPCO employees and 3 workers from other companies have
sustained injuries (all of them are conscious). 3 ambulances are in
operation to care for them and 2 have already dispatched the casualties
to the hospital.

As of 0:30 pm, the measured value of radiation dose near MP6 was 4μSv/h.
The increase of the radiation dose cannot be confirmed at this time.

As of 0:30 pm, the measured value of radiation dose at the monitoring
post in Fukushima Daini Power Station located approximately 10 km south
of Fukushima Daiichi Power Station remains at the same level.

In light of the incidents that have occurred at Units 1 and 3, we are
considering applying prevention measures to the wall of the reactor
building to ventilate the hydrogen gas contained in Unit 2.

TEPCO continues to take all measures to restore the safety and security
of the site and are monitoring the site's immediate surroundings.
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Well from the BBC, they have stated that the Japan government has officially requested Nuclear Experts from other countries including UK to assist.

Not looking good at all.
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more images from the quake/tsunami.







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