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Originally Posted by Imglidinhere View Post
How is it that we haven't flown every single one of our best personnel over to Japan to help with this crisis? Who gives a flipping s*** about the terrorist nations and their doings? This is going to impact the world ten times worse if it isn't contained quickly.
This! just think about it, if it goes into a meltdown, how are they going to contain the other reactors?
post #1242 of 2836
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Originally Posted by Ando View Post
So how do you know that Japan isnt covering up how bad this actually is?
Do you have any proof that this is all contained in the containment building other then what we have been told?

I cant see them wanting to broadcast how bad this situation is!

you also say probably in most of your posts - when its a situation that could be VERY bad.....probably doesnt cut it.

(im in no way saying you are wrong! I have no idea! just saying we are all going off what the media and the company who owns the reactors are saying......and I dont trust them.)
They could be covering it up. But their actions thus far look to be in good faith.

Chernobyl was minimized by authorities. The town surrounding the reactor was not even evacuated for 24+ hours after the accident--only after greatly increased radiation levels were noticed downwind 1000miles....they also did not hand out iodine...they also didn't invite international aid on the topic.
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This! just think about it, if it goes into a meltdown, how are they going to contain the other reactors?
Each reactor has its own containment vessel and building. One reactor going all the way South, by design, should not endanger the others in terms of containment.
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post #1244 of 2836
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They keep you from being exposed to things through inhalation or absorbtion through skin/mouth-but more energetic radiation would go through them probably.

If you eat a block of plutonium (there was a FAMOUS bet a famous physicist made with Ralph Nader that he would do this if Nader ate the same amount of pure caffeine, that the later never took up), almost all of the isotope would go in one end and out the other-and you wouldn't be much worse for the wear...pure caffeine on the other hand is highly poisonous.

With radioisotopes in air, once you breathe them in-they settle in certain areas. Iodine settles in the thyroid, iodine tablets are given out to saturate the thyroid with iodine to prevent radioisotopes of iodine from getting in. Others settle in bone marrow etc. Not pleasant...and lead to all manner of health problems.

The workers wearing radiation suits/masks @ Chernobyl, sent to clear the roof of the exploded reactor building-got their entire LIFETIME dosage of radiation in about two minutes. As most of it was more energetic...not surprisingly they died quickly thereafter. AGAIN though, those guys had no badges, no safety conditions, and were volunteer firefighters who knew nothing about what they were doing-apart form the fact it was probably a death sentence.
For the bolded portion, I'd have to completely disagree.

If you had a block of raw plutonium in your hands, you'd be dead before the day ended.
     
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post #1245 of 2836
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Originally Posted by Skripka View Post
They could be covering it up. But their actions thus far look to be in good faith.

Chernobyl was minimized by authorities. The town surrounding the reactor was not even evacuated for 24+ hours after the accident--only after greatly increased radiation levels were noticed downwind 1000miles....they also did not hand out iodine...they also didn't invite international aid on the topic.
They also learnt how to make it look like they were doing more to "fix" the situation.

I dont know - it seems like one second they are saying "its all contained and we are sure there will be no melt down and every thing will be fine" - next thing another reactor blows up.

I just dont know what to think at this point.
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post #1246 of 2836
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They also learnt how to make it look like they were doing more to "fix" the situation.

I dont know - it seems like one second they are saying "its all contained and we are sure there will be no melt down and every thing will be fine". then next thing another reactor blows up.

I just dont know what to think at this point.
NO reactors have "blown up". If they had, the Jet Stream would have carried lots of fallout off and away by now, and folks downwind would be reporting it.

What those explosions were, were clouds of hydrogen gas that had been bled from the reactor (same idea as bleeding air out of a H2O loop on your computer)--vented into the containment building. You look at the photos/videos, see how pretty much exactly the top half of the building is gone but the bottom is intact? Those facilities were engineered to do exactly that in the even of an explosion-channeling energy up not outwards....thus avoiding damaging surrounding vital equipment/other reactor buildings.
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post #1247 of 2836
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Each reactor has its own containment vessel and building. One reactor going all the way South, by design, should not endanger the others in terms of containment.
Actually what I ment to say was maintain the other plants its impossible right if one goes into meltdown, they are going to have to evacuate.
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For the bolded portion, I'd have to completely disagree.

If you had a block of raw plutonium in your hands, you'd be dead before the day ended.
All depends on the size of the block. I've consumed uranium dust before (don't ask) and as long as it's not alloyed such that your body stores it away, it passes without incident.
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All depends on the size of the block. I've consumed uranium dust before (don't ask) and as long as it's not alloyed such that your body stores it away, it passes without incident.
you sir, are a winner
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For the bolded portion, I'd have to completely disagree.

If you had a block of raw plutonium in your hands, you'd be dead before the day ended.
The lesson of said bet was Nader's repeated statements that plutonium was the "most dangerous/poisonous" substance on Earth. A gent made a bet that gram for gram, and pound for pound he'd eat as much plutonium as he Nader would pure caffeine....since less than a gram of pure caffeine will kill you outright, Nader wisely chose never to put his money where his mouth was.

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All depends on the size of the block. I've consumed uranium dust before (don't ask) and as long as it's not alloyed such that your body stores it away, it passes without incident.
Yup.
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