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Much like the Chernobyl Liquidators.
Pffft. Not even close as of yet. Chernobyl was WAY hotter in terms of radioactivity. In some areas of chernobyl firefighters received lethal doses in a few minutes. This is a mess, and will get worse but it ain't Chernobyl.
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post #1472 of 2836
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Wow this is all so horrible. Those 50 workers who stayed behind are heros. Unfortunately they are also probably going to be Martyrs. They are now facing radiation levels that have 50% + fatality rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_poisoning
It's going to take several dozen hours for them to reach those levels of exposure though. Plus those levels are only in very close proximity to the reactor. In the latest reports the control room was ok.

Edit: A fire which broke out Tuesday at Fukushima has now been extinguished, media reports say. Good news!!!!!
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http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/201...medium=twitter

Reactor 2 Container vessel is damaged. That means pressure can't build up, cores can't be flooded, and radiation will continue to leak. They are worried that this will develop into a "critical meltdown situation"
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Pffft. Not even close as of yet. Chernobyl was WAY hotter in terms of radioactivity. In some areas of chernobyl firefighters received lethal doses in a few minutes. This is a mess, and will get worse but it ain't Chernobyl.
Sometimes in less than a minute. The radioactivity at Chernobyl was ridiculously high. Nothing compared to this.
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It's going to take several dozen hours for them to reach those levels of exposure though. Plus those levels are only in very close proximity to the reactor. In the latest reports the control room was ok.

Edit: A fire which broke out Tuesday at Fukushima has now been extinguished, media reports say. Good news!!!!!
ok thats a relief for them then. I am not sure of the level of protection Rad suits offer, but I don't think they help well against the energetic fierce stuff that the mox rods emit.

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Pffft. Not even close as of yet. Chernobyl was WAY hotter in terms of radioactivity. In some areas of chernobyl firefighters received lethal doses in a few minutes. This is a mess, and will get worse but it ain't Chernobyl.
Those poor guys, some of them didn't even last a day. Chernobyl was an outright deception on the governments part.
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I see it only getting worse
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im not sure if i see Japan getting control of this. I see it only getting worse
While also getting better.
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Those poor guys, some of them didn't even last a day. Chernobyl was an outright deception on the governments part.
Something to think about. All those aerial photos from helicopters that we have of Chernobyl...all those pilots and photographers got lethal doses taking those photos of the open core.
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Something annoying is the inconsistency in reporting radiation limits: "...8,217 microsieverts an hour from 1,941 about 40 minutes earlier, Tepco said. The annual legal limit is 1,000 microsieverts." I assume they mean 1,000 mSv/hr.

Just bugs me because of all the schooling I did and how much of using correct units was engraved into my brain.
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This seems like it has been the perfect storm of conditions for things to just spiral out of control. The plant would have been able to handle the earthquake just fine, or even a smaller tsunami, IIRC the plant could have survived a 7m wave, but the one that hit was 10m. The basement was flooded, the generators had grit and particles in them causing them to fail quickly, then things snowballed from there.
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