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They DID ask for help, that's why we provided the water truck for unit 4 (they went back and got protective gear for workers and drove it to the plant).
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all i've heard has been germany bringing down 7 of their 17 plants (all 7 being built before 1980) until further review.
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Originally Posted by Hyoketsu View Post
It's way past laughable - it's actually sad. The bull-fed droves aren't buying them in buttloads "just in case", but are actually convinced that a layer of green radioactive goo will cover at least half the world.
Might be a slight exaggeration, but it is more than likely to be true.

Someone needs to add compulsory classes about nuclear safety to the curriculum of every school or, at the very least, all the colleges/universities.
I know, that ain't happening, but a man can dream, can't he?


P.S. Try looking up "potassium iodide" in ebay - stuff's either sold out, has numerous bids or is expensive like hell.

LOL, found a "Radiation Emergency Tablet Family Pack" for $2,5k(bid) $5k(buy it now)
Even if I added all the different facepalm.jpg images floating around the internet to this post, it wouldn't be nearly enough.
Well, to each his own. Personally, I'd rather be prepared for even the slightest risk that something could go horribly wrong here. I couldn't care less why other people are buying it (you can make fun of the reasoning you make up in your head all you want) - I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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Ignoring speculation of any radiation from Fukushima making the 6000 mile journey across the Pacific...

Not sure if anyone's posted this link, but it's from Google's Japan help page and it is the NISA press releases as they happen, in PDF form. Handy to keep an eye on the info being distributed...

http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/index.html
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Does anybody know what will happen when these depleted fuel dumps dry out? Fission of some type im guessin. This seems inevatable by they way they are growing more and more desperate.
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Originally Posted by Waffleboy View Post
I have a question Damric, about what you said about the Boiling Water Reactors. Even if the name does not accurately describe how the reactor functions, isn't that still a term used for a specific type of reactor? I'm not an expert by any means, but I've been hearing the term for years.
Yeah it's quite the misnomer. The secondary "steam plant side" is quite similar to that of a coal or oil fed steam plant. That's where there is a boiler. It's called the steam generator, and the primary loop from the reactor flows through the bottom, although it is isolated, to exchange heat with the secondary water.

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Don't mean to be an asshat, but why should we reject every expert, even the head of the us nuclear power group. Damric has posted some useful info but for him to say what he just did is crazy. I highly doubt the best nuclear power specialist don't know what they are talking about. Dare I say they may be even more informed than damric so we SHOULD listen to what they say..whether someone on here beleives it or not..30 or 40 specialists all saying the same thing should hold a little more weight than 1 person on overclock.net
I appreciate your skepticism. Trust no one, especially those who speak out on commercially-paid-for news organizations.

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Theres a hell of a lot of dense white smoke comming out of the reactor atm.
White: class A fire, typical combustibles like cloth, wood, paper, lagging. Electrical components sometimes have a white smoke as well, and sometimes blue. Most smoke coming from the fires on site will be white.

Black: class B fire, oils, tires, plastics. These are pretty common fires in the engineering spaces so you may also see lots of black smoke as well.


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Gah, this thread is both good and bad.

I work in nuclear power and have a couple points.

First, please try and get your info from here: http://nei.cachefly.net/newsandevent...n-that-region/

NEI won't be filled with all the fanfare and dramatics of outlet media sources.

Next does Damric work in nuclear power now? Most navy nukes do when they get out. If so he can get into some serious trouble with his employer since ALL companies that own and operate nukes in the US have issued orders for their employees to NOT speculate or discuss these matters to the media, on the web, or any other type of public outlet.

While your work on this thread is much appreciated, a lot of what you have is pure speculation. It's good that you have the updates and such. It's your sources that may be...shall we say skewed.
I'm not working in nuclear power at the moment. I won't disclose any proprietary or classified information such as operating specifics and the like. I'm glad I'm not on a gag order so I can at least inform people on facts. Luckily things like physics are unclassified and I can talk about how stuff works all day long about the matter.

Now for my next lesson in radiation: shielding. See my next post.
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Well, to each his own. Personally, I'd rather be prepared for even the slightest risk that something could go horribly wrong here. I couldn't care less why other people are buying it (you can make fun of the reasoning you make up in your head all you want) - I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Agreed. Why take such a chance when things are just getting worse and worse over in Japan. Is it really that silly to have some preparation for the worst outcome? It's almost like people here are lying to themselves by sticking their heads in the sand, hoping for the best outcome.
    
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Does anybody know what will happen when these depleted fuel dumps dry out? Fission of some type im guessin. This seems inevatable by they way they are growing more and more desperate.
They get hotter, can start a fire, and since the water partial absorbs fission under normal circumstances, they can become supercritical again if not properly submerged. I also read that the spent fuel pools contain about 2x as much fissionable material as the current reactor fuel, indicating that all of that material burning would actually be much worse than the reactor core itself burning.

Just saw this on BBC... apparently, Reactor #4's spent fuel pool is completely dry now. I would bet #3 is nearly in the same predicament, considering the extent of the explosion there.
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The Guardian reports that Greg Jaczko, the chairman of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission, was pressed on his assertion in Congress earlier that there was no water remaining in reactor 4's spent fuel storage pool, which was subsequently denied by Japanese officials. He told reporters: "The information I have is coming from staff people in Tokyo who are interfacing with their Japanese counterparts. I've confirmed that their information is reliable." Mr Jaczko nevertheless added: "It is my great hope that the information is not accurate."
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Agreed. Why take such a chance when things are just getting worse and worse over in Japan. Is it really that silly to have some preparation for the worst outcome? It's almost like people here are lying to themselves by sticking their heads in the sand, hoping for the best outcome.
Couldn't agree more!

And yes I read my article I posted. People are asking for more radiation detectors and the same line is being used that there's no risk lol. Precautionary if there's no risk lol then why add them at all it would be a non issue.

The state of Alaska is considering adding additional radiation monitors in rural areas as a precautionary measure as federal nuclear officials continue to monitor Japan's failing Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

State and federal officials continued to emphasize that they did not expect harmful radiation from Japan to reach North America, including Alaska.
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I think the biggest reason that people are getting all panicky about this here in the states is that they KNOW they wouldn't be able to find potassium iodide anywhere if something did go horribly wrong. The government only has 50 million pills... that's enough for the west coast for one day. The more that the iodide is out of stock, the more panicky people are going to be about it.
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