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Hmm it just keeps getting worse,i really feel sorry now for them.
Those people trying to cool down the plants are the heroes now,a bit like the Bio-Robot's from '86...
2011 is a bad year in mankind imo.
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Just to add a scientific note to some of the conversations here (and I am sure this had been said in the 22 pages of this thread), it doesn't matter how much radiation you see in a year compared to anything.

Doing 10mS/day*365days is acctually irrelevant and misleading as Arson2121 and several others have done.

Exposure to radiation is reported and should be reported as (S/unit time). Taking away the time factor skews the results and makes them uncomparable. If I say I was exposed to 500,000mS/min for 1 minute, then a doctor would say "My God! You're going to die," but if I just say I was exposed to 500,000mS, then it doesn't mean anything because it could have been small doses over my entire life.

tl;dr: keep the units on radiation exposure as S/time becuase otherwise it doesn't mean anything.

Acute exposure causes damage not small exposure.
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post #2153 of 2836
that article is all over the place. it mentions dry storage, then wet storage, then storage specifically in each reactor... fear monger more man. sure if all the storage failed for all 10k+tons of spent fuel it would be catastrophic, we're talking small amounts here that are actually in danger compared to all the on site storage.
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Originally Posted by ChickenInferno View Post
Just to add a scientific note to some of the conversations here (and I am sure this had been said in the 22 pages of this thread), it doesn't matter how much radiation you see in a year compared to anything.

Doing 10mS/day*365days is acctually irrelevant and misleading as Arson2121 and several others have done.

Exposure to radiation is reported and should be reported as (S/unit time). Taking away the time factor skews the results and makes them uncomparable. If I say I was exposed to 500,000mS/min for 1 minute, then a doctor would say "My God! You're going to die," but if I just say I was exposed to 500,000mS, then it doesn't mean anything because it could have been small doses over my entire life.

tl;dr: keep the units on radiation exposure as S/time becuase otherwise it doesn't mean anything.

Acute exposure causes damage not small exposure.
actually i always had a time unit in mine. i specifically said during a cross-country flight (assuming about 8-10 hours)... then i did it vs an annual dose. i don't know the specifics about the actual nuclear reaction/engineering like demric does but please don't start arguing quantifying human exposure with me... also, if you're exposed to 500,000 mSv over any amount of time during your life, sorry bud, you're screwed.

also, prolonged exposure to small quantities hasn't really been studied well enough, due to various difficulties in establishing a proper cohort, to determine potential health risks. the point you brought up is actually one that's been bothering me about the news reports. they keep saying mSv, uSv, etc, but no one was giving the obviously missing /hr factor. one guy on NHK actually brought it up, but no one really payed attention to it lol.
Edited by arson2121 - 3/17/11 at 12:04pm
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Does that change anything?
not really.
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So what do you think of the people that think this is smaller than Chernobyl still?
The single fact that none of the reactors have exploded instantly makes it smaller than Chernobyl.

Throw in the additional fact that it's been several days as compared to 30 seconds which everything took place - you have no argument.

No one says the situation isn't bad, but not even remotely close to Chernobyl by a long shot. The people in Chernobyl and the surrounding areas were screwed before they could even finish supper.
Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 3/17/11 at 12:40pm
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Obama just debunked anything reaching us.
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Anyone know how big of an area was covered by the Chernobyl disaster?
Roughly 1500KM were contaminated, and upwards of 500KM north of the reactor site.

This, of course, is because of the actual explosion from the reactors, and not just because of a leak. A 30KM radius from the site is the "exclusion zone" in which is uninhabitable.
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Between myself and ENTERPRISE this thread has been re-cleaned. Comparing this event to Chernobyl at this point is not fair and is only fearmongering; that is, if you tried to say this is as bad as that was.
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