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can someone make a TL;DR paragraph?
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Originally Posted by [-Snake-] View Post
Besides analyzing here facial expressions, can any expert or someone with knowledge about this subject dissect anything she said? Is she 100% correct/incorrect? Half-right/half-wrong?

Anyone?
Utterly fallacious. Not a single scrap of proof or evidence to back up her claims. And her solution? Don't eat for 600 years.

Really.
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to bad they have another 500 plants on coasts and fault lines i can this happening to another plant. Tell me why in the * would you put it on the shore to begin with, let alone near a fault line?
it will not happen again in Japan. They have shut down all other reactors at risk of a similar fate until they can upgrade the walls and cooling systems.
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to bad they have another 500 plants on coasts and fault lines i can this happening to another plant. Tell me why in the * would you put it on the shore to begin with, let alone near a fault line?
They put them near the shore because it makes it MUCH easier to cool the plants. Think of it like watercooling your PC with a small lake.
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Originally Posted by SgtSpike View Post
They put them near the shore because it makes it MUCH easier to cool the plants. Think of it like watercooling your PC with a small lake.
Except it needs a pump, in this case a diesel witch was flooded with water. think of it was water cooling like for your pc, except it leaks all over the mobo. while you make a good point they are exposed to tsunamis so it's a double edge sword.

I bet the US is just as bad. i'm sure we have accidents just waiting to happen. It's not all that smart to mess with stuff you don't fully understand and or aren't able to fully contain in worst case scenario.
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Except it needs a pump, in this case a diesel witch was flooded with water. think of it was water cooling like for your pc, except it leaks all over the mobo. while you make a good point they are exposed to tsunamis so it's a double edge sword.

I bet the US is just as bad. i'm sure we have accidents just waiting to happen. It's not all that smart to mess with stuff you don't fully understand and or aren't able to fully contain in worst case scenario.
???

I never said it was a good idea, I was just saying that's why they did it. No need to get all riled up about it - you already stated your point previously.
post #2646 of 2836
TEPCO admits nuclear meltdown occurred at Fukushima reactor 16 hours after quake.

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/...na028000c.html
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TEPCO admits nuclear meltdown occurred at Fukushima reactor 16 hours after quake.

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/...na028000c.html
Dang.

All things considered we've come out of this fairly fortunate so far. Having at least one and possibly 3 fuel stacks in 3 separate reactor vessels liquefied into puddles...and the relatively low radioisotope emissions from the reactor buildings.
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Oh the horror! Now Obama is monitoring the situation again and warning the Japanese government "to take steps" to stop TEPCO'S stock from declining.

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The steep drop in Tepco’s stock price has already dealt a blow to investment funds in the United States. Nearly 20 percent of its stock is held by non-Japanese investors. This has reportedly led the Obama administration to urge the Kan government to take steps to prevent a further decline in Tepco stock.
http://enenews.com/report-obama-admi...in-tepco-stock

Not to turn this into a political discussion, but GIVE ME A BREAK! Lest any more filthy rich shareholders lose any money. There are more important things in the world besides stocks declining.

All 3 reactor cores are damaged and they say the fuel might have leaked through the bottom of all three now, and all the big cahoots can think of is dollar signs.
Edited by aweir - 5/16/11 at 10:47pm
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Originally Posted by cdoublejj View Post
Except it needs a pump, in this case a diesel witch was flooded with water. think of it was water cooling like for your pc, except it leaks all over the mobo. while you make a good point they are exposed to tsunamis so it's a double edge sword.

I bet the US is just as bad. i'm sure we have accidents just waiting to happen. It's not all that smart to mess with stuff you don't fully understand and or aren't able to fully contain in worst case scenario.
But we do fully understand it.

If you play with fire your gonna get burnt.

But, http://themoderatevoice.com/103840/e...-fossil-fuels/

Just because the common man doesn't understand it doesn't mean the experts don't.

Nuclear power plants are incredibly safe. The US plants are literally built to take a direct plane crash/tornado strike and survive without having a disaster.

The Japanese reactor was "succesfully" shut down. Reactor cores four, five, and six had already been shut down to undergo routine maintanence before the earthquake. Cores one, two, and three succesfully underwent the SCRAM sequence due to the earthquake shutting them down.

The problem was that the fuel rods in reactor 1 which the Japanese had hoped were undamaged suffered damage which caused parts of the rods to be uncooled and caused portions of them to melt. This was what caused the disaster at reactor core 1. Because of this, steam was able to come into contact with exposed portions of uranium, oxidizing the metal and releasing hydrogen which later built up and exploded. Usually there are systems that burn away the hydrogen before it can build up, but these apparently failed due to electricity.

As of now the Fukushima I has suffered from a nuclear meltdown in reactor core 1. And there are multiple credible reports that fuel in reactor 4 underwent uncontrolled nuclear fission which is extremely dangerous because it did undergo a SCRAM procedure. But the fission was small enough that it passed unnoticed until scientists collected various chemicals which are the byproducts from nuclear fission. Even though there is not the correct fuel for a multi kilotons explosion from the reactor, there is enough in any one of the cores to create a dirty bomb. The explosion would be pretty small, maybe not even a kiloton, but with that much overheated uranium fuel it could heavily irradiate all of Japan.


funny story. The origin of the word SCRAM is that in the very first nuclear reactor the control rod was held up by a rope to a motor. Should there be an accident there was a man on the balcony in front the rope and control rod. He was given a sharp axe and was told that if there was a problem he was to chop the rope in half so that the control rod would fall into the reactor and shut it off. "SCRAM" is an acronym for "Safety Control Rod Axe Man"
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Oh the horror! Now Obama is monitoring the situation again and warning the Japanese government "to take steps" to stop TEPCO'S stock from declining.



http://enenews.com/report-obama-admi...in-tepco-stock

Not to turn this into a political discussion, but GIVE ME A BREAK! Lest any more filthy rich shareholders lose any money. There are more important things in the world besides stocks declining.

All 3 reactor cores are damaged and they say the fuel might have leaked through the bottom of all three now, and all the big cahoots can think of is dollar signs.
You know, when "regular" people's retirements are partial holders of such companies, it doesn't just hurt the big cahoots - it hurts your and mine retirements as well.
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