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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
You have no idea what you're talking about, the pollution from coal and gas plants has killed many more people than the radiation from a couple of meltdowns. Ignorant people like yourself are what spread fear of Nuclear power and prevent us from building new plants, so we continue to live in the stone age using sources that pollute many times more, and are much more costly and inefficient.

Also, @Dysan (posts above me), please use the Edit button to edit your posts, rather than triple posting.
Outside of the mining for coal, why don't you give your source of information on how a coal power plant has killed 1 person from the pollution of CO2? Even if there was one death directly related to CO2 inhalation, did that idiot stick their head directly in the exhaust to commit suicide? don't get me wrong I am not advocating using fossil fuels as the best source of energy by any means, but when you are putting a blatant statement of X pollution has killed many more than Y pollution, you should check your numbers.
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Sorry nuclear power doesn't belong here, we cant even run our governments, schools, etc.. fossil/nuclear radiation will be the downfall of humanity if we do not come up with something alot cleaner i understand the problems with coal and others its just as bad but nuclear is not the solution it destroys the land around it for pretty much a long time period? Watch were your throwing that ignorant word around I'm not advocating fossil fuels here either. There is more than enough sunshine and heat for geothermal/tidal or solar power its people like you believing the company line from these industries that nuclear or fossil fuels are the only way!!

What parts I'd be eating lots of kelp or seaweed while i was there, good luck!
There is NOT enough sunshine and heat from geothermal to eliminate other energy sources. You can't use sunshine at night, and geothermal only provides so much warmth/cooling, and only in certain areas is it even viable.

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guys i have a really cool idea to create electricity.

Let's find some really dangerous radioactive element in the ground and use it to boil water. We could spend millions of dollars to enrich it. Then we put it in a big boiler where it has to be encased with many feet of cement, have water running around it for thousands of years, requires constant monitoring for hundreds of years, and the government can spend billions of dollars to control, regulate, and monitor it. Then when it melts down we can evacuate thousands of people from their homes, families, and lives and lie to the public and say everything is all right. Then when the world realizes what is going on, we can cover it up and say "everything is fine" but you cannot live here for the next 100 years.
We do what we have to in order to get the electricity we need.

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Outside of the mining for coal, why don't you give your source of information on how a coal power plant has killed 1 person from the pollution of CO2? Even if there was one death directly related to CO2 inhalation, did that idiot stick their head directly in the exhaust to commit suicide? don't get me wrong I am not advocating using fossil fuels as the best source of energy by any means, but when you are putting a blatant statement of X pollution has killed many more than Y pollution, you should check your numbers.
I believe the person's point was that the radiation released from burning coal is actually much higher than all the radiation released from all the nuclear plants around the world combined, including nuclear accidents. Nuclear plants are more dangerous in the local area if an accident happens, but the coal plants are dangerous everywhere - it's just spread so thin that there's not much in the way of statistics to point to, since it affects everyone.
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guys i have a really cool idea to create electricity.

Let's find some really dangerous radioactive element in the ground and use it to boil water. We could spend millions of dollars to enrich it. Then we put it in a big boiler where it has to be encased with many feet of cement, have water running around it for thousands of years, requires constant monitoring for hundreds of years, and the government can spend billions of dollars to control, regulate, and monitor it. Then when it melts down we can evacuate thousands of people from their homes, families, and lives and lie to the public and say everything is all right. Then when the world realizes what is going on, we can cover it up and say "everything is fine" but you cannot live here for the next 100 years.
I've got an even better idea, rather than do that lets just continue burning fossil fuels that do even more damage to the environment and people than a couple Nuclear meltdowns every 50 years do.

Instead we could simply convert to using Thorium powered reactors, which are many times more efficient and produce almost no radioactive waste. That would just be blasphemy though, wouldn't it? And in the mean time we could be putting a lot more money into better reactors rather than continuing to rely on 40+ year old technology.
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The amount of uneducated, closed minded, and extremist thought of people in this thread, be it either against oil production or nuclear energy, should be no place for OCN. This thread needs to be locked.

This is an absolute joke. It went from attempting to inform people of such an accident, and or helping those exposed to such an accident, to a breading ground of extremists that know nearly nothing on what they are talking about but information being pulled by a google search.
Edited by Domino - 8/2/11 at 1:18pm
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The amount of uneducated, closed minded, and extremist thought of people in this thread, be it either against oil production or nuclear energy, should be no place for OCN. This thread needs to be locked.

This is an absolute joke. It went from attempting to inform people of such an accident, and or helping those exposed to such an accident, to a breading ground of extremists that know nearly nothing on what they are talking about but information being pulled by a google search.
Please enlighten us, anyone can toss insults around, what qualifications do you have to call us all uneducated, i thought we were having an amateur argument on energy policies? No one here is pretending they have phd's in nuclear physics. It is a discussion forum.
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If you own a business or understand economics you can understand the importance or nuclear power. We have to have it.

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