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I will try to use a different TIM application (e.g. Cyber's application) because I don't think the Noctua application "4-5mm on the middle" is not working well for me and other people said that it doesn't work well for them as well.

I remember clearly that when I lifted my D14 cooler, I've noticed that the TIM on the CPU's metal cap isn't flat, not smooth and it wasn't like a circle. Due to the fact that it wasn't flat, there may be air inside the paste (air bubbles?). Also it was rather a small TIM - the tim barely reached the corners/edges of the metal cap.

I heard that when you lift your cooler to check the TIM, the appiled TIM should be very flat, thin and no air bubbles inside. Right?

If the TIM isn't flat or thin, should I remove the compound of the cooler's heatsink and then smooth the compound on the CPU metal cap to make it more flat, thinner and more smooth?

Also I think I'll be doing the TIM application on my cooler heatsink, not the CPU. coz it would be easier for me.

Should I strench the paste to the entire metal cap to give the CPU a full-thin-smooth coating? i've read that the A Silver page that the full coating is not recommended. What do you think?

I also think that if a TIM coating is very thin, flat and smooth... the chances of air bubbles are almost zero. Am I right?

I'm asking coz Im getting high temps at 4.5 oc (70c)
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just put a small pee size in the center of the cpu, and put the heatsink on top of it while the heatsink on top just twist it a little tiny bit to get the air bubbles out. that's how i did it on my Silver Arrow i try all different applications, and the small dot in the center got me the better temps .
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post #3 of 9
Try an "X"

It depends on the bottom surface of the cooler.

Eg. On my Hyper i filled the gaps between the heatpipes with TIM and then applied an "X" of tim.

If done correctly it should cover all your CPU when the cooler is applied, but remeber to not apply to much!
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Instructions

I know it's for AS5, but the technique should work for any TIM.
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Ok, after applying the paste and twisting the cooler, should I lift the cooler again to make sure that the paste is properly appiled? I've heard that once paste is appiled and putting cooler on, the cooler should never be lifted. Am I wrong?
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Ok, after applying the paste and twisting the cooler, should I lift the cooler again to make sure that the paste is properly appiled? I've heard that once paste is appiled and putting cooler on, the cooler should never be lifted. Am I wrong?
No, you're right. I wouldn't take it off. Boot it up and see what the temps are.
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Ok, after applying the paste and twisting the cooler, should I lift the cooler again to make sure that the paste is properly appiled? I've heard that once paste is appiled and putting cooler on, the cooler should never be lifted. Am I wrong?
never relift the cooler.
i usually use a + method, a grain of rice size downwards and the same across,
this is with MX-4, and then rotate the cooler 20 degress and back again, to help it spread.

also it depends on the viscosity (thickness) of the TIM.
i got some IC Diamond 24 (very thick) in a free giveaway and they reccommend a pea size (5mm) amount and then push cooler down onto it.

when i use a new TIM, i usually apply the TIM, push down the cooler, then lift the cooler to see the coverage, (if there is poor coverage, the next time i will apply more.)
then clean cpu and cooler and reapply TIM and refit.
its best to check this a couple of times before screwing down cooler and refitting mobo, at least you will know your application method works
Edited by j.col - 3/12/11 at 3:17am
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I did this for the first time yesterday and applied almost nothing. I was a little worried that it was too little, but I'm getting decent temps, so I won't worry yet. If I did it again, I'd probably use 1.5x the amount I used.

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I will try to use a different TIM application (e.g. Cyber's application) because I don't think the Noctua application "4-5mm on the middle" is not working well for me and other people said that it doesn't work well for them as well.

I remember clearly that when I lifted my D14 cooler, I've noticed that the TIM on the CPU's metal cap isn't flat, not smooth and it wasn't like a circle. Due to the fact that it wasn't flat, there may be air inside the paste (air bubbles?). Also it was rather a small TIM - the tim barely reached the corners/edges of the metal cap.

I heard that when you lift your cooler to check the TIM, the appiled TIM should be very flat, thin and no air bubbles inside. Right?

If the TIM isn't flat or thin, should I remove the compound of the cooler's heatsink and then smooth the compound on the CPU metal cap to make it more flat, thinner and more smooth?

Also I think I'll be doing the TIM application on my cooler heatsink, not the CPU. coz it would be easier for me.

Should I strench the paste to the entire metal cap to give the CPU a full-thin-smooth coating? i've read that the A Silver page that the full coating is not recommended. What do you think?

I also think that if a TIM coating is very thin, flat and smooth... the chances of air bubbles are almost zero. Am I right?

I'm asking coz Im getting high temps at 4.5 oc (70c)
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