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Originally Posted by amstech View Post
I love it when you post stuff like this.
You constantly remind me of how new to the game you are.

Both sides get driver updates that increase performance as time passes.
And this is 6 games...

Weak my boy.
amstech, you're the one that sounds like a fanboy with no evidence to back up your claim. Quit tree hugging with nVidia, you have displayed clear evidence of how new you are to the game...

Personally I could care less who is better, I want the best performance for my $$. Before the 11.4 driver, I would of chose the GTX 570, but now I'm really starting to like the 6970.
Edited by whitingnick - 3/12/11 at 8:11am
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post #22 of 96
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The 570 is 5% faster overall.
Easy way to prove it.
You see his numbers, beat them.


And sasquatch, don't let Physx or Tess cloud your judgement.
Outside of the NV optimized Heaven and Stonegiant benchmarks, ATI keeps up just fine in Tess performance.

GPU Physx is going away, 3DM11 switching to Bullet is about the second to last nail in the coffin.

And tess, who cares, games today and in the near future don't/won't tax either card seriously enough to matter.

Heaven, please, takes 1500$ worth of cards to get close to "playable" fps.
You really think there will be a game engine in the near future that will require that?

Anyway I say you flip a coin.
Edited by grunion - 3/12/11 at 8:18am
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Well there is also the fact that the AMD has better output options, comes stock with a high quality backplate and, in the case of 6950 unlocked, is substantially less money.
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Easy way to prove it.
You see his numbers, beat them.


And sasquatch, don't let Physx or Tess cloud your judgement.
Outside of the NV optimized Heaven and Stonegiant benchmarks, ATI keeps up just fine in Tess performance.

GPU Physx is going away, 3DM11 switching to Bullet is about the second to last nail in the coffin.

And tess, who cares, games today and in the near future don't/won't tax either card seriously enough to matter.

Heaven, please, takes 1500$ worth of cards to get close to "playable" fps.
You really think there will be a game engine in the near future that will require that?

Anyway I say you flip a coin.
You're preaching to the choir, I stopped taking benchmarks seriously about 3 years ago. With the 6950 being so easily unlocked and clocked to 6970, it's a no-brainer.
    
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You're preaching to the choir, I stopped taking benchmarks seriously about 3 years ago. With the 6950 being so easily unlocked and clocked to 6970, it's a no-brainer.


Well here's a hymn for you to check out


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HD 6950 or HD 6970 are very fast cards. I have a GTX580 @ 900/2200 and there is nothing the GTX580 can do that my Unlocked HD 6950 cant. With these new drivers AMD might have a winner here.
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And sasquatch, don't let Physx or Tess cloud your judgement.
Outside of the NV optimized Heaven and Stonegiant benchmarks, ATI keeps up just fine in Tess performance.

GPU Physx is going away, 3DM11 switching to Bullet is about the second to last nail in the coffin.

And tess, who cares, games today and in the near future don't/won't tax either card seriously enough to matter.

Heaven, please, takes 1500$ worth of cards to get close to "playable" fps.
You really think there will be a game engine in the near future that will require that?

Anyway I say you flip a coin.
You've pretty much said it. These cards may do better than the AMD equivilants now, but by the time there is a game that will use enough tessellation, or any amount near it, these cards won't be able to handle it anyway, so I don't know why people use the physx/tessellation excuses.
    
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amstech, you're the one that sounds like a fanboy with no evidence to back up your claim..
The 5% overall claim was from countless review sites and articles.
Its common knowledge.
Maybe you need to do some research before posting?
But like stated its so close who cares.

:edit:
If a driver update for 6 games helps the Radeons thats great and will change this number, obviously.


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Quit tree hugging with nVidia, you have displayed clear evidence of how new you are to the game...
I am going to support the GPU that gives me a superior gaming performance in reliability, performance and overall satisfaction.
Not what I bought because I think its better.

I have sampled Radeons and GTX's.
If you don't agree with a statement I have made, address it intelligently, or stop wasting your time with negative comments about my opinion.

Someone wants advice and the GTX's much more solid driver set make it a superior product BY FAR in my opinion.
Thats just my opinion.

AMD releases a new driver set it seems every other week to fill all the holes, I am sure its much improved since my last experience and I have heard from countless members who shared some of my issues that it is in fact getting better.

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Personally I could care less who is better, I want the best performance for my $$. Before the 11.4 driver, I would of chose the GTX 570, but now I'm really starting to like the 6970.
Too many driver issues for me to consider them anytime soon.
Thats just me though.

Performance wise the 6970 is a great GPU.


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Originally Posted by Razi3l View Post
these cards won't be able to handle it anyway, so I don't know why people use the physx/tessellation advantages
Fixed.
Plenty of games use it now.
Don't be so negative.
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If a driver update for 6 games helps the Radeons thats great and will change this number, obviously
Firstly, I think some would agree here that you're being a fanboy and that is where your comments are being fueled from. Secondly, I have already mentioned yet you fail to comprehend so i'll say it one more time.

I tested eight games. 8. Since you can't take that in, I think its safe to say your comments are silly and can't be taken seriously, and I don't intend offence.

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Plenty of games use it now. Don't be so biased and negative.
Name me a game where tessellation gives a considerable advantage over the AMD cards, because I don't see one.
Metro 2033 - Aliens vs Predator - STALKER CoP. Oh.. wait, that's it. And the GeForce cards get beat in all three.. What a same.

Please back up your claims with proof, otherwise your comments are not respectable and won't really be taken into consideration. The fact that you disregard what i've been showing and then make bold claims with no evidence clearly shows that you're being biased yourself while calling others that.
    
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Please back up your claims with proof, otherwise your comments are not respectable and won't really be taken into consideration. The fact that you disregard what i've been showing and then make bold claims with no evidence clearly shows that you're being biased yourself while calling others that.
You put too much concern into these little numbers and irrelevant arguments you seem to love to stir up.
Stop instigating.

We are here to help people make choices with thier money, not have childish arguments based on our own bias. The 5% overall statement is in nearly every conclusion of any review site that wrote it, (toms,techspot,anandtech etc) stop it already with your no proof claim I am stating obvious, common knowledge that it easy to find.

I will never go back and forth with you again you are impossible to deal with.
Just enjoy your GPU and calm down, and stop taking this GPU stuff so seriously.
If I had a better experience with AMD I would say so.

The 6970 and 570 have basically the same performance, it makes people like you that argue over every little thing look silly and biased.
Its about enjoying your experience with the least amount of hassles that is important to me.

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Originally Posted by Razi3l View Post
Firstly, I think some would agree here that you're being a fanboy
I am being honest.
And Ironically everyone calling me biased owns AMD GPU's.
Maybe they don't like what I have to say about my experience with AMD and the $320 I spent on their products?
Too bad.


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I have already mentioned yet you fail to comprehend so i'll say it one more time.
I don't really take to seriously anything you say or post.
Never really have.
It's always pro AMD/what you have bought, and its obvious.

See, I like scream at both companies
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1TB Samsung F3  DVD+-RW  Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 60" LG 60PA5500 Plasma 
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Acer X1373WH Projector Corsair CX500 Cooler Master 430 
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i5-2430M Intel HD Graphics  Nvidia 1GB GT 550M (GF116) w/Optimus|DX11|144 ... 6GB DDR3  
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120GB PNY 1311 SSD 500GB 7.2K RPM Windows7 Home Premium 64 17.3" WLED TL 1600 X 900 with 2.0MP HD webcam 
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Backlit Keyboard Elemental Silver Aluminum JBL 2.1 W/ Built-in Subwoofer 
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