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Well, I bought a Sapphire 6950 2gb ($250 CAD, ridiculously cheap) last night. It will be unlocked and OC'ed within 5 minutes of installation. A big thanks to those who brought proof to back up their opinions.
    
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Opinions should be backed up with 3DMark11 scores! Just wondering what you 570ers and 6970ers get on your graphic score fully stable OC'd.

Edit: I'll start, heres mine.

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/824137?show_...w6ah59wKz0qdan
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My graphics score was 6167

Maybe an overrall 3DMark11 score from most owners would give us a better look at things.
Edited by LivingChampion - 3/13/11 at 1:05pm
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While cherrypicking benchmarks can be fun for slanting in the direction you want, you know as well as I do it's not factual. Its obviously necessary to look at the big picture. For instance, something like this.. from the TPU review of the 6990 (just like all of your links):



4% slower than a 480.

As for the 470 vs 5870 you chose to bring up, a 5870 is faster at stock while a 470 is faster when both are OC'd to their max. You can see that extensive testing process here: http://www.overclock.net/overclock-n...s-cypress.html
LOL, I'm sorry but you just showed your fanboyism. Those "random benches" are the most relevant benchs he could have posted, beating the 570 in crysis, bc2, metro 2033 AND farcry 2 which is ALWAYS nvidia sided is extremely relevant to this since several of them are some of the most demanding games out there. Your extremely general percentage bench shows NOTHING as there are far to many variables and far to many games that are either completely nvidia sided or completely AMD sided. It is always best to do direct comparisons between many individual games to get a real picture of performance. You are wrong, the 6970 while the wrong choice at launch is no longer the wrong choice.


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That's fine, but not really relevant to the thread here or current performance numbers.. which was my point. Though if I was a betting man, I'd put money on nVidias future drivers improving performance more than AMDs thereby widening the gap.
You clearly know nothing about how driver improvements work, as I already said in a previous post it is extremely unlikely the 570 will be receiving the type of performance improvements the 6xxx series will see since architecturally it is essentially identical to the 4xx series. Driver speed improvements only occur when optimizing the drivers to architecture changes.
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opinions should be backed up with 3dmark11 scores!
lol, you're funny.
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lol, you're funny.
Well yeah, rather than making opinions on random internet benchmarks. Opinions should be concluded with your own benchmarks on a common bechmark such as 3DMark11, why don't you post yours?
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Well Gee, I don't know, maybe because we both have different PC. I would do it if you lend your PC though then I'll send it back to you...

Do you even understand how synthetic benchmark such as 3DMark work? Ask everyone who know a "little something" about benchmark and they'll tell you it's useless. So I found it funny that one person want to use 3DMark to decide the winning factor b/w the 570 vs 6970. Hilarious!

Why don't you scroll back a few page and look at some of the screen shots. Those "opinion" are already backup by both the 570 and 6970 user. Then you came in the picture with a 3DMark score... I just thought it was funny and I still do lol.

FYI, look at Raziel sig. 69xx vs 570 or something like that. He did the benchmark himself. Meaning he own both cards. Take a look at that and come back and tell me if it's a random internet bench.
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Well Gee, I don't know, maybe because we both have different PC. I would do it if you lend your PC though then I'll send it back to you...

Do you even understand how synthetic benchmark such as 3DMark work? Ask everyone who know a "little something" about benchmark and they'll tell you it's useless. So I found it funny that one person want to use 3DMark to decide the winning factor b/w the 570 vs 6970. Hilarious!

Why don't you scroll back a few page and look at some of the screen shots. Those "opinion" are already backup by both the 570 and 6970 user. Then you came in with the picture with a 3DMark score... I just thought it was funny and I still do lol.
Graphics score is always the same regardless of the rest of the PC or so I would like to believe.
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3DMark is still CPU intensive. I maybe wrong but previous version was always like that and I haven't try the newer version myself. Though I doubt it change much.
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3DMark is still CPU intensive. I maybe wrong but previous version was always like that and I haven't try the newer version myself. Though I doubt it change much.
Theres a seperate CPU and GPU score so I'll bet the rest of the system would not damage the score of a GPU score.
Also, I believe the only difference between the early and newer version is the addition of SLI/CF compatibility.
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Graphics score is always the same regardless of the rest of the PC or so I would like to believe.
Just curious how you could possibly believe this since a graphics card cannot function without a cpu assisting it. A gpu is reliant on a cpu for certain calculations. A slow cpu can most certainly be detrimental to a card's maximum performance.
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