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About the SSD:

The Exceleram Mangusta ES0120S is an SF-1200 controlled SSD with 120 GB MLC-NAND memory from the German manufacturer Exceleram.
It ships with the SandForce firmware 320A13F0.

After initial disappointment in various test i started digging for the cause of it.
It turned out that running an Single SSD in an RAID-Array has its pros and cons, obviously, as pointed out by Mitche01, it doesn't support Trim in RAID.

The testing of the SSD was performed on my sig rig.
The programs used were AS-SSD, ATTO, CrystalDiskMark and HD Tune 4.60 Pro
Windows was so far optimized for SSD Use
Test test:
RAID mode:
  • Performance measured as single Drive in an RAID array.
  • The latest available AMD AHCI driver were used (11.2).
  • Initially ran in SATA-3Gb/s and afterwards in SATA-6Gb/s mode, which made no difference.
  • S.M.A.R.T. readings couldn't be performed by most of the programs.
  • Trim not active ! But shown as activated in HD Tune.
IDE mode: (partially tested)
  • Set to IDE mode in the BIOS.
  • Tested as secondary/not system drive.
  • Seemed to perform similar to RAID mode, even with all the Windows optimizations.
  • S.M.A.R.T. readable by all programs.
  • Trim not active ? But shown as activated in HD Tune.
AHCI mode: (Disassembled my RAID and setup a new Windows installation.)
  • Windows installation in just under 10 minutes, 25,6 sec. from turning PC on to Windows desktop.
  • Optimizing Windows for SSD use (changes made as mention above).
  • Measuring differences in performance between msahci and amd_sata.
  • Trim active.
  • S.M.A.R.T. readable by all programms.
  • Getting stunned by results.
between the test:
  • Secure erasing and formating with Parted Magic.

Conclusion:

Pros:
  • Stable drive with firmware 320A13F0
  • Excellent performance/cost ratio
  • Good Real-World Performance
  • 34nm NAND Flash
  • 3-year warranty
Cons:
  • No 2.5" to 3.5" Adapter
  • No Manual
  • No firmware update available (coming soon as assured by the manufacturer)


Benchmarks are below.
Edited by Scorpion87 - 3/29/11 at 12:00pm
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The packaging.


The drive (front view) + open package.


The drive (bottom view).







Edited by Scorpion87 - 3/29/11 at 11:47am
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Here you see the amd_sata ATTO test.



Edited by Scorpion87 - 3/18/11 at 11:03am
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Firstly, RAID does not support TRIM so it is advisable not to run SSDs in RAID!

It also sounds to me that you ahve not got AHCI mode set up in windows correctly.

There is a guide on OCN on how to switch them in Windows:

Let me find the link for you.......
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Sounds like a firmware issue,which we know nothing about because probably zero of us have ever even heard of that manufacturer making SSD's.I would suggest giving Exceleram customer service a call.
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I'm running the SSD as a single drive in an RAID-Array, ergo i have no SSD-RAID.
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Originally Posted by Scorpion87 View Post

After updating the AMD AHCI Raid Driver to 11.2 it performed a bit better in the different Read/write test but still couldn't break the 250 MB/s wall.
I found that the Microsoft driver is better than AMDs on my 890 chipset (in a single drive config). See what I found here http://www.overclock.net/ssd/937668-...rformance.html.
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I'm running the SSD as a single drive in an RAID-Array, ergo i have no SSD-RAID.
OK, but from my understanding, the TRIM command still will not work if the SATA port is in RAID mode, no matter if there is a SSD Raid array or not.

It must be in AHCI or IDE mode.

Please if someone else can help then step in!
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Updated the whoooooole thing, with pics and benchmarks


Q: Is it normal that the write performance of an SandForce based SSD drive drops dramatically after just 1,5 weeks of average use ?
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Nice packaging.

Thanks for the review.
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